I thought I was in my response to you. Talking about my general goals and wants, should get more specific on the things I want perhaps?
I think you need more clarity and self awareness. Trust me, I’ve been there. I have deep rooted limiting beliefs that have been sabotaging my money making abilities for years. Even when I ran Ascended Mogul for months, I reaped all the results from that sub except money. My money issues are beyond what Mogul or Ascended Mogul can do. I also want to be a millionaire. My current belief system can’t get me there, even with Mogul. Last year, I ran HoM for a few months, only to end up in reconciliation. The gap between the sub’s goals and my existing belief system is too large. I am aware of that. That’s why decided to stop trying to make money fast. Instead I want to take whatever time I need to get rid of those limiting beliefs. EoG is made for that. I actually intend to stay on stage 1 (the healing stage) longer than recommended. Then when I complete that sub, I’ll add HoM to the mix, but not before next year. I’m going to dedicate this year exclusively to running EoG and put myself in a place where I can actually make a lot of money reliably.
Starting March, my stack is going to be Ascended Mogul + EoG + Mind’s Eye.
Ascended Mogul to get and keep money rolling because those bills need to be paid.
EoG because it will get me in the frame of mind that I need to start working on millions.
Mind’s Eye because I need to clearly visualize those millions to even have a chance to work towards them and manifest them.
So my question to you is : how self aware are you of your money beliefs and how much work do you think you have to do to make money? The answer will dictate the subs you need to go with.
I applaud your commitment
Am seriously considering doing the same stack. Need to get my money problems addressed and Mogul doesn’t seem to address my deeper money issues.
Honestly I can’t say how self aware I am about a lot of things, money included. For a broad set of my financial goals I want to make corporations that could change perception on how relationships should be between the employees and employer, while still being in the billions. I want the type of money where I could buy Microsoft and it be a bucket in the ocean, enough where I can influence/buy countries hell create my own nation like state or fund whatever creative and scientific or occult or paramilitary project I have on the back burner.
But that’s in the future, even if it could happen in a year, that still leaves me months of working this job which has been super shady to me and my dad, and by extension my mom and sister and I flat out refuse to work here any longer than I have too. Hell if I can manage to build a few income streams within a month or so, maybe all of them combined will be double or triple I make here, then I’ll leave straight up. F the benefits. I’ll stay long enough to take advantage of the fidelity retirement thing and use up all my vacation and sick days, and I’m outta this joint.
As for the other goals, we can tap in again in a few minutes. My phone’s about to die and I need to take a shower
Mogul isn’t getting you that type of money. If you pay attention to what @SaintSovereign has been saying, HoM is designed to get you millions and billions. He also said that HoM shouldn’t be run if you haven’t solved money and personal issues. Therefore you should touch HoM before you run EoG and possibly Dragon Reborn. Unless you already have a very effective belief system that is getting you great results.
To have the type of money that would buy Microsoft, you’re talking about trillions.
The only way I see to get you that type of money (trillions) using the subs that Sub Club has is to use EoG, HoM and Stark. Now HoM is tough without having run EoG and/or Dragon Reborn first.
To get to that goal, if I were you, I would start with this stack :
Mogul (or Ascended Mogul) + EoG + RICH.
Then after EoG stage 4 is completed : I would run EoG 4 + HoM + Dragon Reborn
The reason why I am including Dragon Reborn is that to make trillions, you will need to completely shatter your current paradigm and rebuild a brand new highly effective personal paradigm.
After you finished Dragon Reborn, you could run : EoG 4 + HoM + Stark
That stack is the most effective ones I see to create the type of money you’re talking about. But you would have to run a few other stacks before you could get the best out of EoG 4 + HoM + Stark.
The whole thing would take you multiple years, assuming that Sub Club in the meantime does come up with other new subs that could speed things up.
Great self awareness! I’m actually thinking of doing the same. I was gonna run all stages in 8 cycles but I might just do 4-6 cycles stage 1 and then see what’s what.
I already have a successful business running, but I realized I still sabotage myself a lot money wise.
Something is sitting there in my psyche I need to get rid of.
Please journal I want to follow your journey.
Bro, I’ve been broke most of my life and rarely had as much money as I needed. The few times I had enough money or more, I would mismanage it or do crazy stuff. There are deep emotional money issues I need to address. I know that. So after EoG, Dragon Reborn could very well be the next multi stager I run. Mogul, RICH and Ascended Mogul are great subs to start the process but they’re definitely not going to dig as deep as I would like.

I want to make corporations that could change perception on how relationships should be between the employees and employer
Change the perception in what way?
I don’t know how to explain it but, when I Activision blizzard employees not making enough to afford the company lunch even though Bobby is a massive negative to the company, when game devs exposed to so much crunch that they become stress causalities, or gearbox telling their workers we got you for the bonuses only for them to say sorry we can’t help you we down bad while pocketing millions. It just irritates me, which is crazy since I am the most greedy individual you’d ever meet.
I’ll hit you back at like 7 20. That’s when I should be on break
I get what you’re saying. Thank you.
No problem. Hopefully I explained well enough . Have a nice day brother
Would EoG, HoM, and Emperor be too heavy? I am currently running HoM, Emperor, and Mogul and doing pretty decent with reconciliation. I just shut down my first business as a failure so I would be due for a rebuild so to speak. I ran AM for most of QV2 for a foundation.
I’ve been sitting here thinking about and wondering if QL+EoG+AscMogul would be too heavy for wealth and empire building lol.
Yours looks to be heavy, but if you can handle it, it’d be an awesome stack I think.

I’ve been sitting here thinking about and wondering if QL+EoG+AscMogul would be too heavy for wealth and empire building lol.
Yours looks to be heavy, but if you can handle it, it’d be an awesome stack I think.
Don’t do 2 multistagers at the same time. Finish one first, get used to stage 4 then add the second one. I would Asc Mogul + EoG first to get the money mindset right, then I would add QL as a third sub. When you get to EoG 4 you can even remove Asc Mogul. If you need the alpha programming part, you replace Asc Mogul with Ascension.
Does EoG emphasize on creating pathways to wealth more than Mogul? I know it’s a 360 degree look at wealth. Does that include pathways or more supercharging an existing business like @Hoppa?
I could be wrong but I feel EOG ZP addresses finding pathways for wealth
I want to be wealthy but I don’t have a clue what to do
Maybe @SaintSovereign can provide input
I really believe it all starts with your mindset and beliefs
Your perspective has to change as mine did with the Q Version of Dragon Reborn
Thank you for the comment Brother. This stack plan looks great, might run it next year, hopefully a recession don’t happen, or hopefully I’ll be prepared for it.
This next few days, and the month of March will be focused on making money, organizing my creative ideas, learning meta learning, magic ritual, doing light prep for muscle building and male enhancement, some level of understanding in fighting games or video games as a whole, editing and graphic design as well as drawing. Still undecided
Then April, will be primarily physical shifting, hopefully LIFECHANGER will play a role, as well as multiple zp cores, work a bit more on money but the three subs might already be set, it depends if Ultima zp will be put on LIFECHANGER, namely paragon. Paragon seems the best for male enhancement, in fact people were using a hydropump in tandem with it and got crazy results, wanted seems to help with everything from height to muscle to male enhancement, emperor fitness stage 1 just seems to incorporate so much stuff when it comes to learning how to prepare the right nutrition to getting deep rich sleep to quickly building muscle mass, though I’m unsure if it’ll help increase height and male enhancement. A few magic ritual here as well, with some money, again it’ll be clutch if Ultima zp is moved to LIFECHANGER after beyond limitless proves a massive success, rich Ultima zp and accession chamber Will be perfect
Next May, this is when I hope I’ll be ready, mentally and physically to at least start few business ventures or side hustles that I’m too insecure about now, as well as seducing people and reading there minds like some of the people talk about doing with sex and seduction, from the cookie girl, to a few sugar mommas on dating apps and ig or reddit, I want to get something going on, not build out the whole harem but two or four, not too mention I really wanna read the main girl mind to see how I should approach the situation, she knows I want a harem, she knows I’m bi, we talked about this a few times over the years but ya never know, and I don’t want to risk giving her up or my goals in this regard. Now for the side hustles I want to get into, but waiting until I’m better looking or fit, or bigger tool or height ( though height is only semi important right now, still want to be six foot flat, but I could wait for a few months to really focus on it) are things like sugar mamas/dad’s, pro cuddler, and getting paid to be someone’s friend or going out with them, yes these are all real things lol, and I’ll benefit from them greatly once I get there. The subs for this will more than likely be, PS since it removes certain blockages on sex and romance and with sex and seduction you know what to say( though I really know what people mean by that statement, does sex and seduction make it so you see every conversation like a dialogue wheel or something like that? Hmmm maybe I could make servitor for that) plus when the vibed is there and I know for a fact there in to me more than I’m into them, then it’s a wrap, in fact most of my success have been like that, all of them approached me. Next would be wanted, since I still want more bulk and slight focus on height, male enhancement should be over with but you never know if I might need a few more cm, plus @Invictus said wanted makes all the girls chase and be in your romantic program regardless, including milfs, all of em saying zam zaddy! . He said something similar about Stark but it was less extreme, though Stark has online fame, which is great for both business and online romantic affairs, though from what @Simon said, libertine is also a viable option for online dating. Though Hom could be something but maybe save it for later, though I should tell my parents about said stack for wealth and creativity.
Pass this, I’m not sure what my plans will be, besides more magic, understanding law, maybe building a small army if everything collapses, stockpiling needs and wants, maybe build a crypto or something, study how to build my own nation like state. Building more connections and wealth vehicles while strengthen the one’s I already established earlier in case nothing does happen next year, maybe YouTube, twitch. Other that phase 0 will be over, then phase 1 will start.
Though I’m loss on the importance of dragon reborn, how could really change my whole established paradigm of wealth while rebirth and eog or Khan or QL or alchemist can’t? And could it do something similar to paradigm of power, magic, physical shifting, seduction? What about books like Prometheus rising?
Thanks all for reading, though special requests for @ksub , @Invictus , and @Simon. When I make my own post trying to figure out the perfect stack for this month, or what’s left of it, and march goals as well as match my personality type, may I include you?