Main Disc. Thread - Stark ZP

Product Discussion
#1386

OG Stark seems to give me more external results but more recon and less cognitive benefits compared to Stark Black whereas Stark Black gives me max intelligence benefits but less external results. Like on OG Stark I could suck and things will still go well and how I want things to go. Can’t say the same about Stark Black :frowning:

This could be also because I haven’t ran OG Stark consistently for 2 years so maybe I just need to push through like I always did. I had the same kind of issue with OG RICH back in the day and then after a month it stopped and I only kept seeing results (those manifestation results to this day we’re unreal. It felt like a video game hopefully EoG: True Sell brings that back).

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#1387

For me SB is hard recon and the cognitive enhancement script worked less for me than Stark.
Probably because I was in recon

Have you tried stark or SB in a new custom with the anti recon?

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#1388

Yeah both we’re in ZPU. I will run one more loop on Thursday and then washout before EoG: True Sell release and let’s see from there how things go and which sub will go in my new custom.

Obviously I’d rather have max wealth manifestations than cognitive or everything else SB offers so if OG Stark is the clear winner with it then I will just continue with it.

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#1389

I notice I get more ADHD/distracted and more tired on OG Stark compared to Stark Black. Anyone notice something similar?

Been so long since I used OG Stark that it’s hard to know what’s normal and what’s different lol.

#1390

I had the sane a year ago. That time i stacked it with BL and then later built a 2 core custom stark and limitless. That really helped.

Having said that a new stark og will be out this year.

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#1391

Helped but I guess it didn’t fully solve that right?

Odd since I never had this on Stark Black even on the main title I used a long time ago.

#1392

Solved it.

Cant think of any reason to use Stark OG anymore. Prefer ASBR or Hero Origins

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#1393

Are you seeing more wealth manifestations on OG Stark or Stark Black?

I have a hard time seeing the difference I’m so use to Stark Black been running it for two years now that I’m not sure if OG Stark is better.

Right now SB feels like a better version of OG Stark.

@Benny @TheEmpress thoughts too?

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#1394

Currently Stark is working very well for me.
I’m funny I’m confident I’m happy I’m learning.

SB is more dominant and might be better long term.
I wouldn’t know I’m still learning the basics with Stark and I’m happy doing so.

You should know better than I do, what are your thoughts?

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#1395

Stark Black and Stark OG seem like two very different titles though. Stark Black is about massive fame and Stark og is more about charisma. According the copy Stark Black has fame scripting that even causes heavily polarised responses.

I haven’t tried Stark Black, but honestly I don’t think Stark Black is even aligned with my personal goals.

So, I wouldn’t see Stark OG as a mere stepping stone to Stark Black. They serve different purposes.

The copy of this title (Stark OG) has some underrated gems for seduction and persuation. Like being able to seduce a nun. This still makes me laugh. But that type of charisma is very different than just being famous and people screaming your name. Imagine if you were actually trying to seduce a nun. Being as famous as Brad Pitt wouldn’t help you here. But having a gentle charm and the right amount of charisma could actually help you to pull this off.

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#1396

Yeah that “nun” line is what always keeps bringing me back to Stark OG. That is a very bold and profound claim, and it’s very different from someone “leading the leaders” or just being famous. Kind of reminds me of Patrick Jane lol

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#1397

Same here loving the ASBR core in my custom i got WB/ASBR together

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#1398

I am not sure of any difference with the wealth manifestations from these titles. I have used them both long term at different times. Hard to say!

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#1399

I wonder

How has Stark performed for you specifically in a traditional business/retail/distribution context (rather than tech/coding or corporate jobs)?

Did you find standard Stark or Stark Black more effective for negotiation, sales, and overall business momentum?

I mean is Stark good for business vs something like Genesis Mogul?
Or is it just too teach like?

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#1400

It works great. Innovation and cognitive enhancement come in clutch in any corporate environment. The better choices comes doen to your goals, position and how much room you have to take action. My role is so multifaceted and I get so much free-range, I’d get a lot of mileage out of Stark.

If my role was more sales/negotiation focused, I’d go with True Sales over Stark/ASBR. Specialized titles give exactly what you need without all the fluff.

If all i want is career momentum and better, RICH is a safe, simple choice.

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#1401

For me personally it works far better when stacked with limitless or choosing the terminus build.

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#1402

So you mean to say it works in business as well?

#1403

Yes it can do

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#1404

What are you trying to do though? It’ll ‘work in business’ because a cognitive boost is infinitely applicable. But if you’re boost sales or start a business, there are better choices.

#1405

Side venture