Main Disc. Thread - Stark ZP v2

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#117

Its hard to compare in details because self-improvement is dynamic process. It was a long time ago since my last Qv2 & Ultima version ran.

What I noticed on ZPv2:

  1. Definite testo boost. Morning woods are quite pronounced.

  2. No aggression at all, even more compassion to people in general.

  3. Very high focus on anything I do. I think that it improves discipline a lot.

  4. More compassion to other guys issues.

  5. Feel energy of my fathers ancestry, just energy, not emotions. It adds feeling of safety.

  6. More emotional control.

So far.

What I like most of first subs is that they are simple. No recon at all with GLM. 1 loop is okey, no fog, no tiredness.

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#118

TS is a better option.

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#119

This all from GLM? I have been reluctant to run it for fear of turning into some toxic masculinity douche canoe

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#120

I just got to thinking about how running GLM with Dragon Reborn would probably be amazing for any guys psyche

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#121

Let me be honest (if drinking beer is an excuse)…

I wonder WHERE you took this shit?!

Toxic masculinity, from my point of view, is a masculinity being corrupted by toxic feminity (is such word is present in English vocabulary?).

For example, if a mother considered her husband bad then this attitude will 100% be transferred to her son.

The boy will be scared of his masculinity because there is no such thing as “normal” masculinity besides of those that came from father ancestry.

Boy will deny his masculine side because “mother is not pleased then boy shows up energy of her husband”. So, in order to please his mother he will suppress those “bad” parts of him.

Results? No money, no self valuation.

Btw, its not that mother is bad, no. It shows, that her relationship with her mother and her father was, ehhh, not healthy.

So, James, I don’t know your situation but I’m sure that your masculinity is yet to be discovered by you.

Its energy, nothing else. Its its something that its not late to be discovered.

Damn, my beer quite strong.

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#122

Here you go:

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#123

@Sub.Zero Damn….

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#124

Welcome to America lol

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#126

My experience of macho guys, you know, “very masculine” type. Besides of “women is a shit” attitude, there is a obvious homosexual part in this.

Why?

Quite simple. Man (and Woman) is a combination of both energies.

When a guy is suppressing his masculine side he will show two of most common attitudes:

  1. Very meek, long hair (not necessary), fears of challenges and etc.

  2. Harley Davidson style, long hair and hyper masculine.

Both are unhealthy. Why?

They fight with feminine inside them. Mother.

Separation is an answer. There is a feminine energy, I acknowledge and accept it.

And there is masculine energy, I acknowledge and accept it.

Phrases that came to my mind:

“Dear Mother, if I be similar to my father ai nevertheless be your son, even if I be like my father”.

Same to father:

“Dear Father, if I love my mother and accept her traits, I will be your son nevertheless”.

My beer is getting stronger :laughing:

I will calm a little bit. I hope you understand.

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#127

Nah whenever I have ran GLM it honestly has made me VERY calm and ready for action at the same time. People really enjoyed interacting with me as well since I was so calm.

Since it’s such a light script it’s very potent and fast acting as well.

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#128

I feel a bit called out. I never considered the length of my hair as being an issue. I spent most of my life intentionally trying to avoid confrontation. A bit out of fear yeah but mostly out of feeling it was a waste of time.

A bit meek maybe. I tend to give into people which probably says more about my own self worth than anything else.

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#129

I have said for years that all I have ever wanted was to just live my life. All this emotional shit makes me crazy and I feel creates unnecessary stress and conflict instead of just getting on with things.

I just read a fascinating article I will share

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#130

Now that I think about it the whole fighting with my supposed feminine side is probably what has made running A Love Bomb for Humanity so difficult for me. Self Love always felt super mushy to me. Some weirdo hippie shit or something from a daytime talk show

Maybe that’s the source of a good portion of me sabotaging the fuck out of myself all the time. I don’t feel I am worthy of or deserve something. I honestly don’t know. I’m just speculating.

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#131

as: “stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression.”

The point is that an AI search of “toxic masculinity” references those key words because masculinity itself involves those terms.

If you do a search for “toxic orange juice”, you’re going to get some references to oranges and beverages. You can’t talk about toxic orange juice without talking about orange juice.

Toxic masculinity is masculinity that is exaggerated and imbalanced. Healthy masculinity is masculinity that is well-balanced. Deficient masculinity is masculinity that is insufficient.

They’re all masculinity.

Those key words will come up no matter which one you search.

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#132

Thank you for your honesty.

Long hair is not that bad, I like it in myself.

Sometimes mother can find love with her son, your know. Its not that about physical incest but emotional.

It can be quite a challenge to depart from feminine side, at a “right” distance.

Anyway, at the very end of this is just about an energy. Too much feminine energy for a guy - stagnation, indecisiveness and etc,

Btw, there is very good book about our topic - “King, Warrior, Magician, Lover”: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine.

Its not about doing, your know, “acting”. Its more about “being”.

But sometimes it can be challenging. ”Fear of be like your father can make your mother unhappy”. Alas, its quite general pattern in world.

Most guys see their fathers from the eyes of mother.

And, almost always, its not a ‘look from the eyes of love’ by Gene Pitney (excellent song, I highly to recommend to listen to it).

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#133

If you can seduce a nun with its help then it has to be masculine at some level

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#134

Vulnerable masculinity… 200% attractive!

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#135

Vulnerable in a charismatic way otherwise you could be perceived as meek

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#136

Being vulnerable is something I really struggle with.

I have no idea how

I was just thinking of the difference between entitlement and self worth. I am now curious about how much of procrastination for myself or anyone is tied to self worth?

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#137

Just to confirm you mean True Sell right?