Any specific reason why?
It should help you with Muay Thai also.
Stack them
Day 1 1 loop zp
Day 2 rest
Day 3 1 loop Muay Thai X Qv2
Day 4 rest
Repeat
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Not gonna work, I’m looking to change my current sub routine and I was planning on WANTED ZP, a fitness sub for the short term (either Spartan or Muay Thai Mastery X), a intellect sub for school next year (either Limitless ZP or the Limitless ultima, used as a booster/supercharger) and/or either AM or StarkQ. Apparently we can’t run over 3 subs with ZP so my choices are limited, still have to decide on what I want to do.
Two options:
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Do Spartan ZP now and then Muay Thai ZP when it arrives.
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Do Muay Thai Qv2 now and then its ZP version when it arrives.
Although the 1st option seems cool, I would go with the 2nd option because you are exposing yourself to Muay Thai scripting whether it is Qv2 or ZP. That will help you in the long run.
Similar to how am doing Ultimate Artist Qv2 now and will do its ZP version when it releases.
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Ran my first loop of Spartan ZP this morning while meditating in bed upon waking. Started working out about an hour later and here’s my results:
- PR’d in both squats and bench press. This was despite working out in a fasted state, with no supplements or caffeine (just water) AND not having exercised in over a week.
- I wasn’t intimidated by the heavy weights as I may have been in the past (particularly with squats). In fact, I challenged myself to go for the PR.
- Was able to maintain extreme focus during my workout. I didn’t waste time or take excessive rest. I went to the gym with NO HEADPHONES, just in my thoughts and had the most focused workout I’ve had in a long time.
- Noticed a synchronized mind-body connection. During my sets, I noticed myself consciously recruiting muscle fibers of the muscle groups I was working.
- Improved breathing during workouts. Was subconsciously guided to focus on getting my breathing right before/during sets.
- Extreme sense of accomplishment achieving those PRs. I feel like a real warrior right now. This is trickling into other areas of my life as I feel confidence I can achieve anything.
- Ready and excited for the next fitness challenge tomorrow.
- Had extreme endurance and could have kept going if I didn’t have to leave to start working
- Noticed a great pump in the mirror. Looking shredded and jacked, and again this is just day 1 (I’ve been off my fitness game for a while)
- Still feeling very energized, as if I took pre-workout, but again I only drank water so far today. Going to transmute that energy towards a productive work day
This one is powerful guys. Makes you feel like a real badass.
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@Ice from the way you described it, and how we felt on WZP, can we assume that;
WANTED → Aesthetics
Spartan → Strength
I know that both of them can end up giving you both, but I feel like what i wrote is what the main focus is of the subs 
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What if someone isn’t doing Martial Arts or HIIT workouts but doing just yoga and calisthenics? Is Spartan ZP applicable for that?
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I assume that Spartan would work for any physical exercise, as per its description.
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Thank you once again for your input, greatly appreciated as always.
I assumed that not all titles would get a ZP version and since Muay Thai Mastery X isn’t very popular, I assumed it would never get a ZP to be honest.
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Achievement unlocked. It just so happened that I had an extremely tedious yet Herculean task to accomplish at work today.
I maintained impeccable drive and focus throughout the day, and had the endurance to keep me motivated to finish what would’ve otherwise been a very grueling and unenjoyable task. So Spartan’s effects are certainly translating into work efficiency. It’s later in the afternoon now, I just finished a long and productive work day, and I’m still full of this calm, focused energy. That one 15 minute loop much better than any stimulant I’ve ever tried 
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Before my workout, I did some stretching, foam rolling, and general muscle warmup as I usually do. A lot of times I just kind of go through the motions during this process. This time I had intention and focus to stretch and warmup to the best of my abilities - like I wanted to get the absolutely most out of stretching and caring for my muscles. I found myself being very slow, deliberate, and focused throughout the stretching process. Incorporating many different movements than I usually do in an intuitive way. I made sure I was very thorough to give every muscle group what it needed before my workout.
And again, what really separated this for me was that sense of focus throughout the stretching process. Like I was very conscious with my breathing and movement patterns, which is what yoga is all about.
So long story short, absolutely it would seem to help in those disciplines.
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Calisthenics and yoga are also hard. Just because lifting weights is the mainstream here, it does not mean they are less. Calisthenics is similar in some things to gymnastics. So Spartan can help with those disciplines. Actually I’m considering to use Spartan, I practice calisthenics and believe me it is not that easy.
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@SaintSovereign is there any enhancements to nutrition partitioning and protein synthesis in Spartan ?
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Lol, you mean physical shifting in the form of bigger muscles? Of course.
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Yes that’s all I wanted to know, but then again, I already experienced it 
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First loop of Spartan Zero Point today. Decided it was something I needed to include in my stack as I have seen my health/finance/fitness all really deteriorating over the last few months as I was focusing more on my social and dating life which lended itself to more partying, lack of sleep, and my workouts and nutrition really suffering. The extreme mental discipline is exactly what I need at this point. I had the first productive workout in what fees like weeks, as well as I lost all inhibition to drink/party. My nutrition has been perfect today and I finally feel like I have willpower to get things turned around for myself. Overall really productive day, got a cold shower in, workout, meditation, and even recorded the first video to a podcast I’ve intended on starting for a long time now.
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Awesome results @Niles ! I can echo a lot of what you report here in my experience as well…SpartanZP is truly an amazing sub
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Posting this here as well:
Went to the bathroom to brush my teeth and wash my face, so I rolled up my sleeves and just got stunned by how my forearms looked, so I took off my shirt and something just felt different.
I don’t know how to describe it any other way but this:
My skin looks like an armor worthy of the finest warriors of the history, covering my body with power and strength. My body reminds me of the world’s best athletes, or more like the ones from ancient books and stories.
Moreover, the skin isn’t the only thing that stood out, but the hardness of my muscles, it’s like a hard reinforced steel, with molten lava running through my veins, burning me up from inside, igniting a flame of passion towards sculpting my body in the best way possible.
My bones, they feel like they have been replaced with some hard material, like Wolverine’s admantium bones.
Everything about my body feels like it was sculpted by the gods of Olympus, and it’s getting clearer and clearer with every passing moment.
Nothing can stand between me and my goals, and if there’s ever any obstacle in my way, my sheer willpower and dedication alone will destroy it.
Nothing can break me, figuratively and literally, as not only is my mind made of steel, but my body is also indestructible.
If there was a word to describe how I feel, it would be INVICTUS, as I truly am unconquerable.
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I can relate too much with this post, as well as with other Spartan ZP posts by the other guys here,
Even some of the words you’re using like the wolverine adamantium, I actually had that thought yesterday lol, how crazy is that?
It felt like my body is so strong and made of steel I was thinking about wolverine’s adamantium
the ZP seems to bend to what your ideal vision with the subliminal is, whatever that may be. It’s pretty awesome
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