Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Little update from myself

I’ve started to use The Stabilizer and Paragon Sleep soon after their release.

Not only do feel them work deeply and fast, but I also notice that I changed the way I use subs completely.

In the past, I listened religiously every second or third a day at most.

Now I sometimes take a week or more eto process the loops. Then at a point I feel like I’m ready for new input.

Some of you might have noticed that I was barely active for some time now. It was a stressful period and I dropped the forum and Telegram almost completely. Before, I spent most of my free time on one of these platforms.
Now I rarely find the time to catch up with the forum.

But it seems like I’m not the only one.
In the past the forum was exploding with activity, now I manage to keep up with this thread at least, very easily.

If interaction dropped really, and not simply in my perception, it speaks tons for the product and the new nervous system scripting. Though it’s a pitty for market research.

And I should mention, that life is really stressful for me right now. This might also simply mean that I’m so stressed out, that my subconscious takes two weeks to process the loop.

@SaintSovereign
Does it make a difference if I use two or three titles on a listening day when there’s a week between listening days ?
Also, how does this change the concept of cycles? When I do washouts of 5-14 days in-between listening days, each listening day is it’s own cycle in a way :joy:

@Fire
How is new KB coming along?

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Wait is this a telegram? Ya’ll holding out on me? The deception!

I love this. It’s inspiring to hear old hands change the way they do things. Have you seen any improvements with your ADHD?

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NOTE: The Reforged public test has ended, as the release version is complete. Soon.

REFORGED

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The ESSENCES for all the latest titles are coming soon. @Fire is working on them.

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That looks bad ass :sunglasses::raised_hands:

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Possibly, but unlikely. We’re far enough into development to announce that True Sell is a four stage title. It is immense. It’s taking time. There’s an entire stage dedicated to just acquiring more leads and cultivating relationships with leads.

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Good idea. I’ll open one shortly.

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Both the romance and wealth scripting has been heightened in the release version of Reforged.

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Oh wow that’s interesting. I’m thinking without sharing too much ST2, ST3 or ST4 would be best for people who already have a career or a business in sales and that want to scale/grow to make the most commisions? @SaintSovereign

Back in day the new EoG ST2 was a game changer for me when I started my new career (it 2x-3x what I had before as I mentioned to you by PM). It sounds like EoG: True Sell might be kind of similar.

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ST1. It will be the full upgraded title. The rest of the stages are for specific aspects to develop at your discretion.

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This hybrid way as evolution of comprehensive titles is damn great! Love it!

Will we see something similar for e. g. WB? (Like, St. 1. ZPU Evolution, St. 2. A WANTED Body (sexy shifting), St. 3. WANTED Aura & Manifestation, St. 4. The sexy practical stuff)

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Gotta keep our priorities in check. ESSENCE: Summertime please. KB can wait a bit longer. That is unless you cloned Fire. :astonished:

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Interesting that True Sell is going to be a 4 stager.

Would the new True Sell be good for real estate wholesaling?

Here is a short explanation of wholesaling ((from ChatGPT):

Real estate wholesaling is sales at its core—but it’s a very specific type of sales.

It’s not selling houses like a realtor. You’re selling certainty, speed, and convenience to a motivated seller while also “selling” a deal to a cash buyer. In wholesaling, you’re basically in two sales businesses at once: acquisitions and dispositions.

  1. Acquisitions:
    You talk to homeowners (who have distressed situations or properties) and get contracts signed. The job is to find someone who NEEDS to sell (not just wants to sell).

Understand their problem
Build rapport
Ask questions
Negotiate a price
Get commitment and a signed agreement (Contract)
Think of it like consultative sales or problem-solving sales.

Example: A seller is behind on payments (preforeclosure), inherited a junk property, getting divorced, relocating, or dealing with repairs. You’re not pitching them a dream—you’re offering a solution: cash, speed, convenience, certainty. The “sale” is helping them decide your option solves their problem best. The focus is NOT on retail seller chasing top dollar (Realtors and Realaties)

In wholesaling terms, this is called acquisitions:
Marketing → talk to seller → negotiate → lock up contract → move to buyer side. �

  1. Dispositions:
    After getting the property under contract, you now “sell” the opportunity to an investor/cash buyer.

You’re selling:
Equity
Speed
Profit potential
Convenience

Example: “ARV is $250k, it needs $30k in rehab, contract at $145k—good rental or flip.”

That’s basically investment sales.
You’re matching motivated seller problem → investor solution

  1. Marketing + Sales = Wholesaling
    A big misconception is wholesaling is only “real estate.”

In reality Wholesaling = Marketing + Sales + Negotiation

Wholesalers are really marketers first because if you can’t generate leads, there’s nothing to sell. Marketing creates conversations; sales closes deals.

The sales skills that matter most in wholesaling:

Listening – sellers tell you the deal if you ask enough questions.

Rapport building – trust matters.

Negotiation – getting agreement on price and terms.

Objection handling – “I need to think about it,” “I want retail,” etc.

Follow-up – a huge percentage of deals happen after multiple touches.

Confidence + consistency – volume matters.

A good wholesaler is honestly closer to a problem-solving salesperson than a stereotypical pushy closer.

The biggest mindset shift: you are not convincing people to sell—you are helping motivated people solve a problem. That’s why wholesaling feels very different from hard selling.

If the new True Sell can help with these areas then I will definitely be getting several customs of this beauty!

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So what you’re saying get a part time sales job offline or online, get the title, and supplement my income?

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Yes, most certainly. We actually reached out to quite a few salespeople (including some here) and one of the first things we realized is how the word “sales” is simplified, including the skills necessary to succeed in that industry. What we’re creating is a toolset that everyone can use, so long as they are selling something.

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Ultimately, you have to make that choice. But I am confident that True Sell can assist if you do.

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Possibly. I’d recommend putting ideas into the roadmap. Won’t get lost that way.

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What is the discipline and willpower on this like? I really like the discipline Spartan gives me just gives effortless no pmo and controlling unwanted thoughts

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Significant. It’s an EMPEROR title – these are hallmarks of that series. It may express a bit different (a firm inner core that refuses to violate your self-directed code), but the end result will be the same.

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Is the face shifting title on the road map? think u moved the post to questions section, i wrote extensively features list.

And any chance of wb update before end of summer?

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