Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[SaintSovereign]

@anon15812918

still got amazing results but does that mean that I’m facing some huge blocks with these titles and have to slowly work through and just chill at this minimal exposure for quite some time, or can you give any specific recommendations for me to progress better?

Honestly, it’s probably not the Anti-Recon Scripting. The titles also jumped in scale around those times and there’s more to work through. Remember, there’s no need to rush through the titles. If there’s an exposure that you get good results with while experiencing less reason, stick with it. That’s the exposure time that will help you work through these issues easier.

Eventually, you will work through those blocks and start getting even better results. I know it’s tempting to rush ahead, but remaining steady will generate the bigger — and I mean mind blowing results later. And by later, it doesn’t even have to be that long. Once a person finds their sweet spot, results just flow and keep growing from there.

ZPU tech is a different type of title. Less is legitimately more at times, and this is not a platitude. Some of my best GLM results came at 7 seconds.

[SaintSovereign]

@MAkh

dit: looks like all the modules from the latest pack are missing for Essences

I’ve asked Engineering to take a look. Check back in a few hours. I’ll post here when it’s done as well. Thanks for pointing it out.

[jelly]

What’s the typical way that you journal? Obviously what Saint said, but there might be a way to adapt your journaling style to how you respond to the anti-recon and scope of the newer titles.

[SaintSovereign]

@MAkh

Would be much appreciated

It appears to be working now. Let me know if there are any more issues!

[Judoka]

If all goes well with summertime would Emperor be next in line for the zpu update to get more feedback?

[Judoka]

For anyone else does the recon of a new sub reduce the results you were already getting from another sub?

I was listening to 30s of paragon getting results then added in 30s stark black and it seems like my results went slight backwards

[anon15812918]

Understood, thank you. Staying at 15s then

@jelly

What’s the typical way that you journal?

I’m following these guidelines from new instructions

What to Track:

Consider organizing your journal entries to capture:

• Internal Shifts: Changes in self-talk, emotional responses, beliefs, perspectives
• Behavioral Changes: New actions you took, old habits you didn’t engage in, courage displayed
• External Results: Money earned, relationships formed, opportunities received, skills demonstrated
• Dreams and Insights: Vivid dreams, sudden realizations, intuitive hits
• Reconciliation Notes: When reconciliation appears, what triggered it, how you moved through it
• Synchronicities: “Coincidences” and unexpected alignments that support your goals

And additionally I have some general “freeflow”, unfiltered journaling on whatever I want at the moment. If I’m working on a specific issue, I’d journal about it. If I’m generally going through recon, I’d journal about that. If everything is well and results are flowing, I’d journal about that

[TheGreenMan]

Yes, absolutely. Changing the stack can in my experience dampen results. If you change subs during one cycle especially so. And Stark Black is quite heavy too.

[TheGreenMan]

@Judoka

it seems like my results went slight backwards

I don’t really know what that means, but speaking personally staring at/constantly looking for results and hyperanalyzing was also one point that in hindsight slowed my results considerably in the beginning.

IME the more you engage with something consciously the more the subconscious steps a bit back.

So best IMO would be to pick the one sub you want to master first, follow the microloop instructions, keep it going for one full cycle without detours, don’t analyze every loop resultwise (this can become some kind of sabotage/negative autosuggestion “I can’t see exactly the result I am looking for now, therefore it isn’t working for me.”) and most importantly trust the system.

[TheGreenMan]

@SaintSovereign

The roadmap is for new ideas, titles and the such.

Would it be okay to write up “inspirational” customs in the threads?

In the sense: Which modules would one include in a custom today for a given concept and which aspects are still missing from the Q store, should be included in the proposed sub.

[heartmadeiron]

Would really come down to what developments emerge from Summertime and how those could benefit later subs. Case in point, GLM helped develop the inner scripting that lead to New Regen.

[jelly]

@anon15812918

If I’m generally going through recon, I’d journal about that.

Do you ever review the copy to see if you can understand which features are causing that day’s recon? You’re already pretty much covering everything else, so no real suggestions other than taking it slow.

[anon15812918]

@jelly

Do you ever review the copy to see if you can understand which features are causing that day’s recon?

Yes, I do, but I usually can’t pinpoint the precise feature(s) that cause recon for me

That’s also what I meant when I said

@anon15812918

But I’m having a hard time identifying specific blocks and increasing exposure

I generally can only pinpoint which feature already kicked in and I got result on. But not the ones that are being processed and reconciled at the moment. Either it’s some form of reconciliation fog, or the expression is so personal that I can’t really relate the features of the copy to my life situation in the moment

Most of the time, I have recon in the forms of apathy and fatigue though, not some specific kind

[jelly]

You’re right, that is tricky.

@anon15812918

Most of the time, I have recon in the forms of apathy and fatigue though, not some specific kind

But recognizing this could also be a good lead. The next time you’re in recon, socratically questioning yourself through the feature list could get you somewhere — not for any big emotional reactions, but rather for any abnormally large apathy or fatigue feelings. Or even just any “foggy” feelings. Write down how you feel about each feature as a baseline, then come back to it when you’re in that recon fog and see if you feel the same way about each of them.

Having such a strong disconnection from what’s being worked on could honestly be a positive. It keeps you from getting in your own way and consciously questioning every little shift. Definitely not a bad trait to have.

[SaintSovereign]

@anon15812918

I generally can only pinpoint which feature already kicked in and I got result on. But not the ones that are being processed and reconciled at the moment. Either it’s some form of reconciliation fog, or the expression is so personal that I can’t really relate the features of the copy to my life situation in the moment

Free writing in a journal can help with this. The goal is to determine the underlying “tone” of reconciliation, allowing you to take action. Free writing means that you’re just writing down and observing your thoughts as you do it to gain insight into the issue.

[anon15812918]

Yeah, I am doing that but haven’t really been successful with it in regard to dealing with recon

@jelly

The next time you’re in recon, socratically questioning yourself through the feature list could get you somewhere — not for any big emotional reactions, but rather for any abnormally large apathy or fatigue feelings. Or even just any “foggy” feelings. Write down how you feel about each feature as a baseline, then come back to it when you’re in that recon fog and see if you feel the same way about each of them.

I don’t really have any feelings in regard to features of the subs though usually.

(Or more like my sensitivity isn’t developed enough yet for that?)

[Niles]

What’s helped me recently- is when I do feel recon (or a negative expierience/mood not related to subs for that matter) , is to sit with it without distraction. Doesn’t have to be meditation, but most people are constantly pumped with a never ending flow of screens-music-information- that there is no space for understanding or there emotions to arise. Literally just sit and do nothing, focus on what your feeling and let whatever come up, come up.

My biggest breakthroughs recently, have unfolded this way, and I normally don’t get the insight of what was causing the emotion until after it releases. It’s typically a feeling of heaviness- just disappearing or feeling lighter.

Journaling after this- or even reflecting, is when I understand the insights.

[anon15812918]

interesting, how long do you usually have to sit like that?

[William]

@Niles

Literally just sit and do nothing, focus on what your feeling and let whatever come up, come up.

That sounds a lot like a meditation, lol.
Sit and do nothing, observing whatever comes up, letting it come, letting it be, letting it go.

[Niles]

Indefinite amount of time. I try basically after work to not really be on any screens/devices. So it’s either sit and do nothing- or go for a walk with my dog, gym, yoga, I do still read quite a bit but not to the extent of me trying to avoid being there with myself.

After a tough break up a couple months ago; I probably spent a few days like that, multiple hours of just sitting there processing. Now it doesn’t bother me so much and I actually enjoy being a lone and having time to think, and feel, and my life is really moving along pretty enjoyably.

The important thing, is to not be constantly stimulated by inputs, or outputs to the point where you are shut off completely from feeling anything.

When I first did it, it felt like sitting there without a phone or device and being completely by myself felt like I was going to die . That is not normal, but I think it’s pretty common. I find now, that almost anytime I feel an undesired emotion or state; that it’s because I am distracting myself and not facing it.