@SaintSovereign Good to know. I wasnt expecting anything right away. I sort of thought what I am feeling was actually because of some alone quiet time I made for myself
I consider the Superchargers a hybrid track ā you can just hear the spoken track. Weāve known how to create them for awhile, but weāre discovering that a lot of our assumptions arenāt panning out the way we thought. For example, youād THINK that Terminus Squared would work the same way as Q and Terminus, just faster, given the fact that the builds are VERY similar, just more information.
Yeahā¦ thatās not whatās happening at all. I donāt quite under what Terminus Squared is doing. As soon as the queue for Q slows down a bit, Iām going to probably make an Emperor T2, just to get more feedback. Weāve received all kinds of crazy reports ā everything from time loops to sudden hyperawareness of time and space. Some people get nothing at all, might as well listen to silence. Some on T2 Mindās Eye are reporting having a vivid imagination for the first time. That being said, Q and Terminus works as intended ā Q gives you stable results, Terminus does the same, just with more reconciliation and overload if youāre not primed for it.
Hybrids are the same way. You canāt just make one and then use the exact same scripting and expect it to work the same. Our hybrids are different than other producers also. Thereās someā¦ special stuff I included based off my years producing music.
Also, behind the scenes, we run our company like a tech / research firm, a skill I learned as a product developer / product marketer. Believe it or not, the successor to Ultima is already in planning and I have a prototype. Just need much more information on Ultimaās results, so donāt expect an Ultima 2 until early next year.
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Hmm, not sure. The masked should be fine, but Iām curious how theyāll perform with the ultrasonic part.
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@SaintSovereign I havent run ME T2 although I probably should because I cant visualize for shit
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Im downloading it now! Im going for the full psylocibin type of visualization 
Minds Eye TĀ² here we go!!
By the way, the heart chakra sensation I started feeling with Sanguine Ultimaā¦ Its still going on strong.
It has a menthol like quality to it, its hot on the inside and refreshing cool on the surface.
I can see the green coming out of my heart shaped as a beam.
Im filled with joy, I feel as I did as a kid.
And I listened to sanguine 6 hours ago!!
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I ran sanguine ultima 1 loop this morning, I have less negative thought Iāll say, usually when I sleep badly I always have negative thought and bad energy! Not so bad today!
I saw @SaintSovereign told earlier that it might take some time to build momentum, Iāll be patient with it, I imagine running true social or even libertine ultima 
godlike masculinity maybe?
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Has there been any consensus as to whether SU is more effective first thing in the morning vs last thing before bed? Or even as a track to drift to sleep to?
Or legacy 
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This is a whole new game, which one to chose as a booster 
Yes.
I was thinking that a good test might be to try a Terminus2 build with one or more of the titles that are more clearly expressed in performance or physical changes. (e.g., Boxing Mastery, Sex Mastery, Emperor Fitness, Spartan, and so on). Since theyāre more directly tied to some performance-context could be easier to evaluate, at least compared to titles that are more about mindset or purely internal processes.
I really like my Terminus2 program. But the effects feel different. Deeper and less obvious. But powerful, I think.
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Hey @SubliminalUser,
Iām not quite following the context of your question, but, no, I do not.
Iām running Mindās Eye Terminus2, since May 24, 2020. I own Mindās Eye standard build but have not used it. The reason I have not used the non-Terminus2 build is that at least half of my motivation for running this is to explore what the Terminus2 build does.
So I want a relatively pure experience of it. (Not completely pure because I canāt really account for the influences of other related subliminals that Iām running, of other practices in my life like meditation and magick or of any other unrecognized factors that could be influencing my mind). But, relatively pure.
I started running Stark Q Terminus on May 2, 2020 and was very intrigued by the instant response that I felt. To date, that was my most dramatic initial response to any subliminal. That, understandably, got me very interested in the possibilities of Terminus builds. So I was really excited and interested to try the first Terminus2 program when it was released. Add to that that Iād been highly anticipating Mindās Eye ever since it was first announced (as a possible supercharger), and my decisions are pretty transparent.
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What did you have in mind when you raised the question?
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If you had done it, I would be interested in seeing the different dimensions that exist in terms of effects across the two powers. Because according to Saint himself, T2 is not a strict power increase (unlike T) and just seems to do something different altogether. Therefore Iād be interested in seeing how the same subliminal affects someone in non-T2 vs T2.
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Ah, I see. Yes, exactly. Iām on the same page.
Iām really interested in that same question. But for now Iām staying with T2 because I want to make sure I get a definitive enough experience of it.
It still feels so subtle and mysterious to me, to be honest. There have been a couple of times when I got an almost cinematic experience. But most of the time, my mental imagery is the vague, tenuous stuff that Iām used to.
The other day was interesting. I went out walking and decided to do a little imagery exercise as I walked. Itās called the Circle of Power (pretty similar to LBRP practice). In very brief, you visualize some angels around you and some light going through them and through you.
Anyway, as I walking, I got a pretty solid feel of the archangels and that was pretty interesting.
Then there are the Mindās Eye functions and effects that are not strictly about visualization but are more about the potency of manifestation. I feel like thatās at work also.
Maybe T2 sometimes bypasses the conscious mind completely, and just completely trusts your subconscious to take care of the whole thing. Like when a family member is praying for you and you donāt even know about it, but you still benefit from it.
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This idea would be really interesting to apply to the case of physical subliminals like QL or EF or physical change modules. E.G. for physicality shifter if Q/T is about making the physical change happen, what would T2 do differently? 
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