Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

Always check which kind of mushrooms you put in your food before you eat them.

Good question. I remember the initial Q+ tests were about 1-2 per week as well (somebody just had a light going on with the label “ZP+??”). I think you’d end up with 1-2 loops total on one day, 1-2 loops a few days later, but no more. So you could pick 2 subs total or build a custom.

But I’m just guessing.

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Hahaha I’d love to end up with those kind of mushrooms to be honest :rofl::rofl:

2 subs in total :cold_sweat:

See guys what happens when you ask for high powered subs?

For the sake of stacking, I would definitely start a petition to keep the power stabilized at what it is :sweat_smile:

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Do you want some :smirk:

We should do a big zoom call with users to meet :grin:

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It’s 10 years behind bars here, minimum.
I’ll stick to my spices for when I feel like it :rofl:

But I’m very curious about Sage ZP in this regard, as the Sage Ultima did feel like smoking a joint to me.

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That’s me. I don’t over loop. I stick to guidelines, and I’m a hard gainer.

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I feel like the people who started saying this, after Saint mentioned it, are actually limiting themselves.

It’s similar to what Saint told @GoldenTiger in his journal as well;

You’re kind of conditioning yourself by labeling yours as a hard gainer.

On that note, I respond pretty nicely to ZP, so am I considered an “easy gainer” :thinking: I don’t even know if I would want to be called that because it sounds lame :joy:

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On men that’s crazy, here I think they just take my shrooms, and then I talk to the officer about how many sets of bench he does and all good :rofl:

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I was thinking of writing an article about this today.

A lot of the hard gainers are engaging in a bit of intellectual dishonesty in regards to results. They’ll convince themselves that small results “could’ve happened without the sub,” which pretty much amounts to a conscious, willing shutdown of what the sub is trying to help you achieve.

If something happens that hasn’t happened in awhile, and it’s related to the sub’s end goal, it was the sub.

Now watch as people now redefine what “related to the sub’s goal “ means.

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Terminus square Qzp… Wouldn’t you start blinking like Mario in super Mario Bros.???

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As for the 5 minute version of ZP, even if this proof of concept worked, I don’t know if we would even release it right now. We can’t even get people to listen to the 15 minute version properly. With a 5 minute version, everyone would be yeeting themselves out of existence from overexposure.

That’s if it worked. But we’re going to find out soon.

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The SubClub Annual Virtual Summit doesn’t sound like the craziest idea. Any vict… volunteers for the first Keynote speaker?

Then of course the SubClub Q&A panel when you can ask questions directly and Saint & Fire can’t stealthily avoid answering them until people forget about asking them.

Yikes. I like countries where you can buy the truffles but not the shrooms, or where you can grow shrooms but not buy or sell them. It’s like England, where they have an Olympic firearms team but aren’t allowed to train because they aren’t allowed to use firearms.

You just had to go and make me feel bad, didn’t ya?

Problem is, if I just say “I’m a gainer” I might gain all those kilos you are trying to get.


Saint is talking, I’ll shut up now.

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ZP is already based on Terminus Squared. @Malkuth got it right during testing. :wink:

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Haha. More like this:

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I’ll do it hahaha, I may not have a lot of sexual confidence now, but speaking to people in a presentation setting is one of my strength! :smiley:

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I think you should change the terminology to something like “delayed responders”, at least that way, people wouldn’t consciously shutdown the script :thinking:

Seems like Limitless has helped you spot the patterns of complaints of these so called ‘hardgainers’
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HAHAHAHAHA England is built different :rofl:

i’m just saying, if you really were a “hard gainer” then you wouldn’t even be here in the first place :wink:

I feel like people are overdoing that hard gainer stuff. I said it multiple times on this forum. It took me close to 2 years to see the obvious effects of Emperor. Am I a hard gainer? Nope! I’m just a guy who was the complete opposite of what the sub was trying to achieve. I was the furthest thing (in my opinion) of the goals that sub could create. The sub was working but at very deep levels that I couldn’t consciously be aware of. I could have thrown my hands in the air, call myself a hard gainer and quit.
It really depends on the sub you’re using, the goals that you have and how consistent you are. Ascended Mogul had fast and deep effects on me. Rebirth had very fast and intense effects. Emperor took a long time.
Be kind to yourselves, people! Some subs will work fast, some will work slow. Just follow the instructions and stay consistent.

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So you said the slight tinnitus is some kind of recon? Ok, gonna do a small washout then (I was sticking to the plan… But then everyone is different)

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I’m a hard gainer but with ZP I’m keeping an open mind and I love how things are working out well for me… it’s like I’m practicing magick. ZP lives up to its name, and I’ll be posting very soon(likely today) about how it’s performing. A few hints, it’s spiritual at the same time material. What I strongly want, goes with what it’s aligned with. And it’s like I’m not changing anything about myself that’s holding me back but based on my dreams, way too much is happening.

After I wake up, results just start pouring in. Rn, I have way too many messages to respond to.

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