Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 2)

[ksub]

@Palpatine

When I run Mind’s Eye in a stack, I put it at the end so it can get in and do its thing, since other subs have already gotten and started doing their things.

How do you know that for sure? We’re just trying to split hairs. When and how the subconscious decides to act on the subliminal input is not something you can know or control. There are too many unknown variables at play. All we can know is that change has happened or is happening. Bu trying to understand the order in which the subconscious is going to process the subs is a waste of time in my opinion. That’s why I say, listen to the subs and let your subconscious sort it out.

[Palpatine]

Results. ME at the end seems to bring me faster, better results than putting it at the start.

[ksub]

I understand that but that doesn’t mean that it got processed first or last. It only means that results came faster. You can listen to ME last and results could come faster than other subs depending on a number of things. Honestly, I think that the only thing that’s required is to listen to the subs and take action.

[Palpatine]

That’s fine. @Alphamale asked a question about if order matters. I answered and gave my reasoning.

[AlexanderGraves]

Saint once said himself that Rebirth, for example, tends to giver better results when run first.

I think THE SENATE has better results by running it last.

It might have an impact, but probably not massive.

[Palpatine]

I remember that discussion about Regen (Q at least) at the end of a stack. Don’t recall it about Rebirth per se.

[ksub]

@AlexanderGraves

I think THE SENATE has better results by running it last.

Which sub is the Senate?

[Palpatine]

I AM The Senate!

[Alphamale]

@Palpatine
Pay attention to the fact that I slept and processed the stack
For the short term results I am sure that the order matters
But for the long term I guess I should run stark first, unlike the last night and see the results next day

[Palpatine]

Sleep is how I usually take my subs.

[Alphamale]

Yes I feel them integrated

[Invictus]

Cake

[GoldenTiger]

Thanks, I just turned 27

[King]

Joyeux anniversaire!

[unusualfellow]

I got to thinking… since zp customs are not yet available… and zp is said to activate/energize qv2 customs… and zp is built with terminus2 technology…

Would qv2 terminus2 build customs used at shorter durations like 15min (instead of the default hour) be the best?

[Simon]

@Alphamale

Short terms is the ZP boost before the execution, and long term is after the execution
My hypothesis: in short term results will differ, but in long terms they will have the same synergistic effects

Yes.

It’s best to try these things for yourself. Short-term effects are more of aura, behavior, or feelings. These are specific to one’s life. And that experiential knowledge is useful in specific personal situations.

Like Saint posted …

@SaintSovereign

I know that Mind’s Eye greatly enhances my ability to strategize in the tactical simulations that Fire and I like to play. If I run Mind’s Eye earlier in the day, by the time I play the game, I tend to utilize knowledge that I discovered from earlier sessions. If I run Mind’s Eye right before playing, I tend to make riskier moves, use riskier tactics. In other words, it changes my risk reward threshold. Now, since we use the strategy games to improve our fluid intelligence, you can see how this knowledge allows me to further that goal.

Same thing can happen with any title. Once you get a feel for it, it’s easier for you to consciously modify the expression of that title.

[Lion]

@unusualfellow

Would qv2 terminus2 build customs used at shorter durations like 15min (instead of the default hour) be the best?

The question is already answered here:

Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

They will be fine. Your Terminus and Termites Squared ones, however, is another story. You’ll have cut exposure to those. 20 minutes MAXIMUM.

[Alphamale]

Thanks
What is long term effects when those are short term effects
I don’t think I could agree to that, cuz I think long term results are also those but with a lower intensity

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Alphamale

Hello brothers
I found the titles I needed to listen to and I think writing a journal would be unnecessary due to me having a certain titles count and a certain listening pattern.

Journaling is amongst one of the most important aspects of this journey. False.

In fact, you could say it’s more important as I assume you’re implying that you are experimenting. Keep an offline journal at least.

@Alphamale

For example listening to emperorZP and starkZP, if you listen to one first and the other second or vice versa
Will the results be different?

I’ve seen others report it making a difference. I believe @Invictus at the beginning of the preview noted this, but I’m not sure. Personally I also see a difference.

When I first started using ZP I noticed that playing Chosen before and/or after the next title made a difference. I’ve experimented with order recently but I have yet to look over my findings through my own journal.

[Alphamale]

I wanted to justify the fact that I am not contributing to the FORUM
For short term I am sure that it makes a difference
But for long term I honestly don’t know
As I said, last night I listened to my stack and stark was in the last and I SLEPT!
so I think there was a bit of processing and execution
And I was feeling different from the days which I STARTED my stack with stark
But those days there was no processing or execution until I slept in the middle of the day and mostly eded up with recon(fatigue before sleep and recon after sleep)
So I guess I should experiment next time and listen to stark first and see