Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 2)

#488

Oh yeah, I don’t think I’ve mentioned this anywhere yet, but regarding the “permanency” of results:

I’ve had an issue since forever that limited me from eating enough, even with my intense workouts, it seemed like a mission impossible to eat enough, which is also why I’ve been able to deadlift 180kg in the past, but never really going above 70kg naturally, until WANTED was released.

Fast forward to the private test, I mentioned it multiple times that only WANTED is able to help me eat, and @SaintSovereign told me at the time that the reason for my appetite being higher is due to the physical shifting tech, so I thought to myself “shit, if I removed WZP from my stack, then my hunger will disappear with it”, which kinda started some overthinking in me, but it is also one of the reasons I ran WANTED for so long.

Well, it’s been over a cycle without it, and my hunger never left :stuck_out_tongue:

So why am I saying this, well, 2 reasons:

1- this shows that the baseline you reach at the end of a cycle, or at the end of your run of the sub, will stay with you (I didn’t mention the attraction stuff, cause Stark has that effect too, in a way).

2- @SaintSovereign i don’t think that my hunger only went up due to the physical shifting tech of WZP, I think it fixed a hormonal issue that I wasn’t even aware of :sweat_smile:.

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#489

And for Te Si Ne Fi(estj)?

#490

Try every day to add 1 liter of milk. This helped me to go up with my weight.
It is plus 400-600 kcal, depending on the type of milk.

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#491

Unfortunately, we have an error with Q. It’s not a huge one, but we’ll have to delay EoG / QL until tomorrow. :frowning:

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#492

I feel this is most relevant here. Primarily have ran Emperor and Chosen since the start of ZP preview, with Spartan, RICH, and most recently Love Bomb as the third components to these cycles.

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#493

Intuitively, which subs do you think have pushed you the most to make that change into a person who finds joy in discipline?

#494

Your post fits perfectly with the SC Framework discussion …

Chosen & Emperor expand and focus/restrict each other,
but they lead to an Extreme life that needs a Social/Fun Balancing title.

Use Daredevil as your 3rd component in the next cycle.

:+1:t2:

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#495

I’d say 90% of that is from Emperor and 10% (the joy part) from Chosen. But I sense Emperor is the main driver of this.

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#496

That’s very enlightening and makes a lot of sense based on the experiences I’ve had.

Daredevil sounds cool, but Primal Seduction seems to be calling my name :wink:

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#497

That’s so interesting. Thanks for sharing!

I wouldn’t have imagined Chosen to have that effect, although I only ran the OG sub for a single cycle before swapping to the experimental Chosen From Within, which has practically made me forget how the OG made me feel.

Lots to think about, thanks again Ice.

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#498

You’re very welcome.

The positivity from Chosen really does seem to shine through to give that sense of joy and optimism throughout the days. I am fortunate to be working in a field where I am helping other people on a daily basis (healthcare) which I’m certain helps Chosen execute that positivity and joyousness.

Another thing to consider: those who are leaders tend to “have their shit together” and are typically organized and disciplined individuals. Leaders, in my experience, aren’t usually people you look at and think of as lazy. They’re people you can look up to and aspire to be like, and that oftentimes comes in the form of being highly productive, while making it seem easy.

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#499

@Simon

In your opinion.

What would be a good stack for a intj-t? Using that framework as a guide.

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#500

Sorry man, I’m not a master at the types. I just know myself. :man_shrugging:t2:

The subs work with and leverage your personality anyway.

Run whatever fits your goals, and you feel called towards.
Stack to add skills, or restrict undesirable effects.

:hugs:

In 2020, some of us did try long-term stacks based on Personality Types or Astrological Charts …

Ultimately though, I returned to the short-to-mid term Goals & Strategy way of choosing the subs.

:nerd_face:

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Subs for my personality type?
#501

No 5D ascension at the moment, but the promised 5G adoption is finally here and we can all experience “frequencies at a higher level?”. Perhaps those 5D ascension enthusiasts mistook 5D for 5G.

It’s the same as “the world is going to end this year” and "the world economy is going to crash (this time it is different)“. Say it every year and you will definitely get it right one day.

#502

I once PhotoRead “Hannibal” (The 3rd published and last Thomas Harris novel chronologically regarding Lecter).
Did that to experiment with what Paul Scheele of Learning Strategies Corporation calls “Direct Learning”…which in the original version was Photoreading some “How to” books about a certain skill, and possibly a biography of someone who mastered that skill.

After all that, they’d have these people do the equivalent of Timeline Therapy, visit their future and then look back to see how the skills manifested.

Me and some others on the old Photoreading forum at LSC wanted to see if this would work just Photoreading about PEOPLE. To gain their insights, etc. Basically combining Photoreading about people with Napoleon Hill’s idea of the Council of Advisors, or whatever he called it.

I did it with Dr. Lecter, just that one book. It worked so well that for a while, his voice was in my head and would offer me advice on things. Like my own personal inner Dr. Lecter.

I Photoread the book. Then lied down after, on my back, eyes closed.

I just kept thinking “Hannibal, are you there?” several times…nada.

On a whim, I thought “Dr. Lecter, are you there?”

and heard Anthony Hopkins’ voice (rather than Brian Cox) say “Hello, Bill”

Talk about waking the fuck up out of a trance in a flash.
Turns out “he” only answered to “Dr. Lecter”…lol

The most striking thing I remember of “him” helping me out with something is I was at my kitchen table one day working on a cryptogram puzzle…and was stuck.
I closed my eyes “Dr. Lecter, I could really use some help with this one”

I opened my eyes, and very briefly, where one of the letters was on the page, I instead saw the letter it should be…like “he” was showing it to me. I tried it out, and it worked! It also served as a lever to get me unstuck on the rest of the puzzle.

He never gave me any culinary recommendations, probably a good thing.

EDIT: That was on 2003 or 2004 when I did all this…“He” hasn’t shown up for a very long time now.

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#503

Did you try the same method with other books?

I remember there was a guy called Win Wenger who was supposedly an expert on photoreading.

He mentioned in his book that a lady managed to give a speech in French overnight just by photoreading a French dictionary, and someone learnt how to repair his car by photoreading a manual on car repair.

I am not sure whether his anecdotes were true but they made interesting reading.

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#504

I’ve since PRd all the Lecter books in an attempt to “revive” “him”…but nothing came of it. I think it worked the first time because I was genuinely interested in trying it out.

I’ve not done it with other exemplars yet.
I did just drop an idea into the roadmap though regarding this.

EDIT: I actually DID do this one regarding Warren Buffett…there are TONS of books on that guy.
I will sound weird saying more, but I’ve got a mental “Sanctuary” I created using my skills as a hypnotist. From Sanctuary, I have a way to get to a “Construct” space like from the Matrix.

My amalgam of Buffett is standing there in the construct space kinda walking around and has been for 2-3 years now maybe. When I go in the construct during my little mental escapades, he waves and says “Hi (Palpatine’s IRL name)” the way only Buffett can.

I have a “control panel” in my construct which resembles an old teletype keyboard like I used to use on submarines in the radio room.

Once, a few years ago, I was lying bed, in the construct, just messing around, and I typed in a command on the control panel keyboard for my body to ramp up pheromone production by 300% or some crazy number.

The wife stirred in bed about 5 seconds later, woke up…wanted it…I obliged.
I’ve yet to be able to recreate that though.

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#505

Having gone through this extreme for many months of running Emperor, I see things very differently now. Emperor ZP doesn’t push me to this extreme at all, in fact I have been more proactively social.

The way I see it is you’re making a sacrifice for the benefit of your future self. The question is how is your ROI. If you’re seeing new revenue streams and structures that could lead to further freedom, it’s worth it in my opinion. If you’re shaping your body into the best health, shape, and attractiveness you’ve been in, it’s worth it. If you’re developing your character in the extremes of discipline, intentionality, and work ethic and you can translate that over into faster and more effective action with whatever you choose to do, all worth it.

What I noticed was I was doing this but at some point, it went out, all my energy, focus, and extreme discipline were going towards proving something that was going nowhere, yielding no ROI or benefit for my future self.

Whatever the case, just consciously making time to do things for fun and their own sake is a great practice, and actually seems to boost productivity and effectiveness.

Emperor ZP I’m giving another cycle so let’s see how it orients this intense but meaningful focus next round

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#506

I did the Silva Method course and one of the things that I was taught was to visualize a space in the Mind’s Eye where a "panel of advisors"would be available to solve your problems.

Think Napoleon Hill espoused a similar approach.

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#507

That’s super insightful @Azriel thank you for your input. That’s exactly on the money with my experience

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