Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

Let’s say that you are the designer of your own RPG Game and ZP brings you into the game you created. You have created the maps, the challenges, the rewards, the NPCs, the easter eggs, etc that the character will experience when the game starts.

You can also set the attributes of the character.

Because you are the designer of the game, it is not fun for you to just go set up your own character and play the game on your own. It will be a boring experience knowing what comes next isn’t it?

That is why when we come into this world, we forget that we are the ones who actually built our own matrix so that we can experience it.

Perhaps ZP allows us to realise that everything, being our own creation, can be reconfigurerd.

That’s the analogy from the game designer perspective.

Apart from Elder Scrolls, maybe another a good example would be the popular Ultima game series in the 1990s where the designer of the games, Richard Garriot, inserted himself into his games as an NPC. From Richard’s perspective, it wouldn’t be fun if immersed himself into a world he created himself as a playable character wouldn’t it?

And if you read Micheal Newton’s Life Between Lives, there is a similar concept.

And also Saint mentioned this a long time ago,

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it is like I can’t still comprehend it (until I try it).
15 minutes, so 3 subs-stack duration is 45 minutes.
45 minutes is the time I need to shower, eat breakfast, dress before leaving the house.
this is so deep.

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That is actually a very profound point. Weren’t we originally told that a custom was a 6 month to 1 year commitment?

@SaintSovereign @Fire would either of you please comment on this? Are we understanding this correctly that results are so accelerated that we’re looking at potential 70+% reduction in “time to get results”?

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My guess is that they will be re-written to be ZP format. So PSITZP…

Stealth archer in Skyrim pretty quickly became quite overpowered. You’re right. I almost always defaulted into that character.

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That sounds like a noise an insect would make as it’s buzzing by your ear super fast.

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Instead of thinking of the subliminal as a tool to control or replace your mind, think of it as a resource to strengthen and empower your mind.

And that strengthening effect is cumulative over time.

  1. When the subliminal is finished playing, you can still use your empowered mind to create the results you want in your life. In fact, now you’ll have significantly more time to do that.

  2. As your mind, over time, is guided to adjust to and internalize this new type of strength and flexibility, you’ll find that you’re getting better and better at creating whatever result you’re aiming for, even when you’re not playing a related subliminal.

A resource to empower your own capacities.

To continue the sci-fi/video-game theme: imagine an artificial exoskeleton that strengthens your own muscular, skeletal development each time you use it. To avoid draining your body’s energy you are limited to 30 minutes a day, but when you remove the exoskeleton, your body continues to have enhanced agility, strength, etc., for some time…and over months of use, you find yourself growing stronger and stronger even without the exoskeleton.

That’s how I’m imagining it. Is this accurate? We’ll see.

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or… Man, this week really PSITZP’d by…

:nerd_face:

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It used to be 30 days for minor changes, and 90 days for major changes, and 6 months for really really big changes.

So, does that mean that it will be 7.5 days (about a week) for minor changes), 21 days (3 weeks) for major changes and 1.5 months for reallly really big changes?

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You actually did the math? Very cool

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@RVconsultant @King

This is something that really hit me when I first read it. I don’t know if the change is that fast, but seeing that 45 days would be the potential new threshold to switch stack is… Mindblowing.

And over the long term, the growth would be crazy.

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Potentially unrelated but I was watching a video on YouTube a couple of days ago about the Dunning Krueger Effect and I realized that I am terrified to take an IQ test because I will find out I’m dumber than a box of rocks mean I will still feel that way after running Limitless ZP?

@DarkPhilosopher
@Malkuth

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Reckon a good idea is anyone else runs Limitless ZP to make a thread/subforum where you guys can all promise to take/show IQ tests and results to each other.

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This very thought protects you from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And remember, timed intelligence tests assess Timed Intelligence.

If it takes me 1 minute rather than 10 seconds to solve a particular problem, well, the problem’s still solved, isn’t it?

I’ll simply organize my workflow accordingly (to give myself a little more time) when it comes to that particular type of problem.

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So I can run 3 titles in a day with one loop each, every other day, right?

Now what if someone runs wealth titles like Emperor, RICH and HoM and he also wants to aid his workouts, how will that work?

Looking forward to DR ZP which I can run on a per-need basis.

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You will have to cycle.

You will focus on wealth for 45 days straight, then, switch the focus to fitness for another 45 days (maybe while running rich for wealtg support), and then come back to wealth.

It seems ZP have the ability to make change faster than the Q line.

Or you run 1 loop of some wealth per week and your other days you run your fitness stack… There are still lots of things that need to be explored!

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DR would be great. I’m looking forward to the Renaissance Man upgrade.

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The fact that you know how smart a box of rocks is makes you smarter than a box of rocks. Problem solved, now stop underestimating yourself you genius. :wink:


What Malkuth states is true. IQ is measured under timed pressure because with enough time a normal person can always get to the answer. When I ask what 144*136 is, some people get there in moments, others take their time. But in the end their brains are likely still doing the same 13600+(4000+1200+240)+(400+120+24)=19584

The timed pressure in the IQ test isn’t to measure your brain’s ability to reach the correct answer, but rather its ability to eliminate all the incorrect answers. From the moment you see the question, the brain starts to make sense of it by eliminating everything it is not. If your brain is wired efficiently enough it can do so at incredible speed. The end result is that suddenly the answer seems obvious to you, as does the reason why. Your brain checked a universe filled with possibilities and connected the right two dots.

This I suppose is why some would argue it is impossible to raise one’s IQ but it is still possible to become as skilled at something as somebody with a higher IQ. Do something often enough and your brain starts storing shortcuts which allow it to reach the answer faster. It sees a problem, checks a table or index and instantly knows all the things it can eliminate because it has done this before. Even muscle memory works like this. Experience and skill can be as effective or more effective than natural ability.

So don’t get too hung up on what your IQ might or might not be, you can do everything that those people at Mensa can do. The only difference would be that they started at the front of the line-up while you were at the back. All the more satisfying when you end up #1.

Make passing that IQ requirement a game instead of a challenge. A game you are going to beat even if it takes more than one try. And if you have tools like QL at your disposal, utilize them.

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45 days with rest days included? or 45 days of listen time?