Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

Any idea which mask will come with ZP? Solace or the regular one?

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This post right here makes me want to join the test, but recently I became very focused on what am running and am seeing great results

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Solace. It’s moving out of experimental status.

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Don’t derail your current results – the ZP stacking test may or may not be pleasant, lol. We’re starting with low, low loops and increasing slowly.

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Roght now what would be considered “1 loop” in terms of reconciliation compared to Qv2.

1 loop ZP is less time compared to Qv2, does it mean that 3 loops ZP = 1 loop Qv2 in terms of recon?

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i don’t think it would be like that :thinking:
because if you think about it, many people were able to handle multiple loops of Q with a 5 on and 2 off listening schedule, but the same subs, even at 1 loop with the same listening pattern caused recon, so in a way, the power can’t really be quantified like that.

Yeah, you are right reconciliation and power are not the same… There is still some link between reconciliation and results as getting too strong recon can impair results…

But I was still curious how the 20 minute (or 15?) sub compare to the full 1h!

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Well guess I’ll just wait for public release, want to test out the ultima mostly. RICH, Commander, Dreams, Beyond limitless and Executive just to see what it will do to my results.

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Can someone explain to me what Saint means by “largely external method of action that Qv2 takes” ?
Does that mean, it isn’t like Qv1 where you just listen and stuff happens? (Making assumptions here)

What is meant by “Qv2 is externally focused (hence, taking action to generate results)” ?

Was Qv1 not “externally focused”?

My bad if I annoy anyone with these questions but I still use Qv1 Khan over Qv2 because I’m more comfortable with that. Though I wish to make the transition.

I believe he meant that just in relation to ZP itself.

And yeah QV2 is definitely better than QV1

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Early reports from the stacking test are promising. The biggest issue is balancing ZP’s power. Too much and you’ll get good results, but lose the ability to stack.

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Would you consider making unstackable an option?

If you can swap after 45 days only one sub doesn’t sound too restrictive. (Especially with customs later.)

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The vast majority of users stack. Saint has also elaborated on this idea further above in the thread.

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Yes, I read it. I didn’t mean highpower unstackable ZP as the sole concept but as an option.

(Maybe only in the Q shop like Terminus would be better.)

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Yeah, balancing is hard. I would compromise power for stacking because stacking is what made SC famous for.

Running just one title / one area of improvement is a handicap, life unfolds itself in many different areas. Three titles is a good quantity.

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I disagree regarding the handicap. It can be, but if you have one central challenge or project at one point in time, concentrating on it (and a corresponding sub) seems sensible.

To be fair, it would of course be possible to concentrate on the one (stackable) sub & just get more exposure.

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If one project - yes, if one wants to improve a few areas… well, “sub changing fever” will hit hard.

For example, somebody works with financial project, so runs finance-related sub, right? Then of all the sudden his / her loved one dumps that person and guess what? In a moment person changes his sub to something love related. I saw that a numerous times in life, even outside subliminal community.

Man wants money and don’t want to spread his attention to relationship. One f*cked up cold approach and all the sudden man wants something different :slight_smile:

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I love you mehn

I’m going to second the notion that making both stackable and non stackable power levels available is the way to go here. At least eventually.
That would allow the people who want to really focus down on one thing the ability to get the full potential of QZP, and those who want to stack to be able to.
Best of both worlds.

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Then it’s only a matter of gauging the right amount of exposure. There’s no need to tamper with the power levels. Really.