It was just a road trip. A very focused road trip.
I can remember almost the exact moment when driving started to feel comfortable. My internal visual map of the road and my place in it flipped in the looking-glass, and suddenly it made sense. “Okay!!! Now I get it!”
This is such a good question. I’ve played QL st4 for a significant length of time. And, for a while, I just put RoM to the side and seemed to avoid really even thinking about it. (I do that a lot with things.). One day, though, it just really hit home that RoM might be an excellent choice. And once I truly considered it, it was like, “It’s time.”. So, in fact, RoM is going to be replacing QL st4 in my QTKS custom. Eventually, I’ll have my own answer to this question.
Also, about this:
Khan Black is the second program in my stack. So I have been stacking Khan Black with QL st4 for as long as it has been playing. Now that you mention it, there must be some synergy going on. Even apart from energy repair, both Quantum Limitless and Khan Black are major results-enhancing programs, each in its own right. I am not profoundly attuned to energy transformation kinds of phenomena, though; so I won’t comment too much on this. At the same time, I have found enhanced sensations during energy-development practices, particularly around the Bai Hui (百會 or ‘Hundred Convergences’) point right at the crown of the head. That’s one place where I do sometimes feel things. I also felt an increased sense of energy in general, with the arms ‘moving through molasses’ or ‘through a magnetic field’ kind of sensation. I think I was getting that with QTKS alone; even before adding in Khan Black.
I’ve taken a several weeks break from daily energy development practice, and have been focusing on just empty attention and awareness practice for a bit. The inner work version of a ‘washout’, I guess.
And this just reminded me of another result that I had not yet associated with subliminals. Will put that in another post.
While it’s still somewhat fresh in my mind, here is the other result I had that I realize (in retrospect) was probably connected to my QTKS custom, Sapiens.
Yesterday, in London, on the final day of my UK trip, I visited the Tate Modern art gallery with my family. It’s one of the respected art museums in the world, like The Louvre or New York’s Museum of Modern Art. My wife has always been deeply into fine art so I’ve been to a number of such places, large and small, over the years. I have my own relationship with art, but it’s much more personal and, for example, was never related to anything I’d formally studied.
Yesterday, at the Tate, I found myself having a different relationship with all of the art that I saw. It was like I was ‘getting it’ in a different sort of way. The shift didn’t feel unnatural or anything. It did, however, feel significant and noticeable. It was as if Aesthetics as a general category of concern just had a more explicit and specific space in my mind. It was easier for me to integrate and make sense of the things I was seeing, and I really enjoyed doing so. It was also interesting that after about 60-90 minutes, my brain felt quite tired.
It was like I was taking in the pieces as aesthetic and informational experiences. We all have aesthetic experiences every day, and we all deal in information every day; but this felt more rarefied, more intense, and at a higher level than usual. There was an active internal engagement in digesting and processing what I was observing.
Artists are part of an ongoing, evolving conversation(s) with all of society and all of the Environment; about form(s), about meaning(s), about roles and styles of engagement and participation. How will things look? How will form and function inter-relate? How will we and others present to the world and within the world? How will we describe and express who and what we are? There are so many possible parts to all of these. And each artist makes their particular contributions.
So, I was having that experience yesterday.
Today, it occurred to me that this, too, was facilitated by my long engagement with Quantum Limitless (and possibly a bit of Genesis and others too). That was a cool realization to have.
Did anyone else notice a crazy difference in dreams on stage 3?
I’ve only run 3 loops of st3 plus limit destroyer so far (already completed a circle of LD so it‘s not that), but I already noticed a big difference in the vividness of my dreams and my ability to remember them. Not only that, in this week I’ve had two lucid dreams. For comparison, that’s how much I’ve had in the past year or two.
Oh man, I’m torn also and considering a QL4-ROM-Paragon custom. just pure mind and body optimization.
Can i ask your routine here @Detective_L
I mean how much exposure did you limit yourself to ? Like 3 mins, 5 mins, microloop etc,
This was before ZPv2 I think. So full 15 mins at that time. I wouldn’t do that now though.
Ohkk, got it… 
Dear users of QL and I mean them users who already have all four stages not just st1 or st2.
Just wanna ask whether you noticed after QL that you can have faster or maybe better results with other subs since your brain was already upgraded and better working.
And also another question. Have you spotted upgrades for other parts of your body not only your brain? Like better cardiovascular systems, lungs, etc.?
@Skadoosh I saw you have QL st4 under your belt.
I have used QL a lot and I would say that this is the case. However, new tech was released (zpv2) while I was on my longest QL run, so it is difficult to say which advancements in my processing powers that came from running subs like QL (and even more so Alchemist) and which came from tech upgrades from Subclub.
QLST4 is hella underrated, lol.
The custom that had QLST4 in it, is what created new terms or ways of perceiving in me. Such as “low ROI socializing”, in fact… the whole “ROI” model (you always see me using that term ROI on here, lol) was likely birthed by QLST4. If you look at the style of journaling I did for the custom which contained QLST4 - all of that was through the filter of QLST4 manifesting. Everything from understanding differences between Emperor vs Stark, being able to extrapolate individual effects of different modules and so forth.
It was a big player, with noticeable effects. It does everything it says in the product copy.
That’s really all I have to say about QLST4, lol.
Hopefully it’s upgraded in the future. I am sure they’ve learned A LOT more since this title was released.
Yes, and all of those benefits were with the previous generation of technology. Subliminal Club upgraded nearly everything, I can only imagine the results now.
Even with older technology, Subliminal Club was far ahead of everyone else. The total of all of those benefits I’ve described… you can’t find that from another competitor. And if you can… not as efficiently packaged… most definitely not in a subliminal audio that caps out at a mere 15 minutes… and most definitely not at this price range.
There are quite simply levels. This is why I don’t entertain other subliminal competitors - they all suck ass and all they do is copycat.
The craziest part is that I was merely scratching the surface with Quantum Limitless.
Thanks @Skadoosh
Have you seen improvement in other parts of your body not only in the brain?
From the start of the new year, I was going to start with Khan but right now I am more keen to do QL before, even if it is 8 months. The reasoning is that QL will have a big impact on everything else running after and also hope that every sub after QL will integrate faster.
I have generally healthy cardiovascular systems, lungs, etc, so there was nothing noticeable. If there was a change in “better breathing” for example, it wasn’t noticeable enough for me to be aware of it.
I’m also not big on monitoring internal body processes, which I understand you are. I don’t have cool gadgets and apps that tell me my heart rate, blood pressure and so on.
Anyone went straight to ST4 on ZPv2 instead of going one by one?
There is a testimonial on the sales page from someone who did exactly that
Sheesh, just saw it. And I loop it a lot 
I tried that before doing all the stages. Not recommended… at least back in the Q days.
And it is just such a beautiful product if you give it the time to let it work. So I would recommend doing all stages, even if you “can handle” st. 4 from the get go.