Main Disc. Thread - Primal Seduction ZP

[WildCard]

I’m a little slow, sorry. Does this mean that with PS ZP, there is no need to run PS:IT because it is now included in PS ZP script?

Or still stack them together?

[Alphamale]

PS q had also all that PSIT had
PSIT did not have the healing
Like some healing script is sth like I guess: I enjoy chatting with girls

[Magneto]

Yes, there is no need to run PS:IT if you are running PSZP.

[lovage]

Do you still feel the push to workout with PSZP?

[Mogul_Nascent]

I’m on PS Zp and Diamond zp plus my heartsong/wanted custom, the push to workout is still there for me. Been working more at work so I’ve been missing some days, but I’ve been less harsh on myself if I miss a day.

[GoldenTiger]

@GoldenTiger

Sooooo… What does PS have that Wanted doesn’t have? Why would someone choose primal seduction?

Same question here : What does PS has that Wanted doesn’t?

I’m curious to know, as a customer, or a new member to the forum, why would I recommand PS? Right now it looks like a booster to give you sexual drive and get your game better…

I can’t really tell what part of the script in me is Wanted or PS, so for my next 21 days I’m dropping PS (not because I don’t like it, because I want to developp the Wanted archetype).

[Melior]

@GoldenTiger

I can’t really tell what part of the script in me is Wanted or PS

I’d say PS is probably pushing you more agressivly toward interactions/flirts
And wanted is more “you own it, so they have to come”

When I used PS Qv2 I always had this urge to move to talk to do something it was really powerfull

But for wanted I’m pretty much just the same guy with more confidence feeling better looking and more “body-language” oriented (just general demeanor)

Hunter vs Prize

[GoldenTiger]

Yeah, but apparently Wanted have strong game in it and also you can read body language.

[khan]

If we can get an update of all ZP descriptions similar to Chosen ZP that would help us choose our stacks…

[Melior]

@GoldenTiger

Wanted have strong game in it and also you can read body language.

What do you mean by game ?
Because to me being attractive is part of the game, as being the one who is seeked.

The game can be you going out of your way and neiling the discussion

Or just acting accordingly

I think the game you’re mentionning is self adapting to the script but I’m making theory as I’m not a chosen one to lay it’s eyes on the scripts
I just think those part are neutral and self-interpreted by the subcounscious to ease the assimilation to other part of those scripts

[Ice]

@khan

If we can get an update of all ZP descriptions similar to Chosen ZP that would help us choose our stacks…

Amen to this! That would be amazing

[GoldenTiger]

@Ice

@khan

If we can get an update of all ZP descriptions similar to Chosen ZP that would help us choose our stacks…

Amen to this! That would be amazing

They will hahaha, just let them some time guys, there is a lot of work to do for now!

[Simon]

@Luther24

It feels like PSZP puts everything in the palm of your hand with how to maneuver with women in any interaction. The way I see it is WANTED ZP creating a whole bunch of different pathways/openings of opportunity and interaction and PSZP giving me the ability to maximize them and play them with absolute mastery and precision while continuously learning and becoming better.

@RVconsultant

I think PS is more about skills

These are the S&S effects.

Any reports on how Primal is expressing with PS ZP?

[Mogul_Nascent]

On just the Primal part, I have been feeling pretty in control or even just more grounded in myself. Like I feel like I’m wearing a lion head on my head like Hercules.

[Luther24]

@NinjaGazin

I’ve been stacking PS ZP with Wanted and chosen ZP. Almost dropped PS because I felt like it was clashing. I’m glad I didn’t and its mainly because of the primal aspects.

This sub is raw sex animal magnetism. I found that the innate urge it gives to approach and be aggressive sexually can be channeled through wanted’s nonchalant aura in a way that creates this intense field of primal sexuality that follows me where ever I go. I’m much more in tune with my body then I have been in my entire life and I literally feel like a caveman more in tune with planet earth and the ground beneath my feet and the sky above my head. Confidence is through the roof and its not the nonchalant suave guy confidence from wanted; its the dominant “all women are my cave girls, I am howling at the moon” type of confidence. whats cool though is that I think combining it with chosen and wanted have made it easier to contain it in social situations where it may be too much but its still there. I have enjoyed seeing women struggle to contain their horniness in professional settings with this stack. I have had multiple women hit on me at work and the constant looks of lust and adoration are becoming addictive.

I think the sex and seduction objective sides are being filtered through Wanted because where initially i had this drive to approach that was causing me some recon I now find myself doing internal energetic stuff to “reach out” to women to induce them to chase me and it works. Very well.

Tbh this sub for me feels like what I always imagined khan to be like…I’m enjoying it so much I plan to continue with my current stack until next year after my washout.

I have the exact same stack as @NinjaGazin and it’s uncanny how much his post resonates with me. It’s so spot on and accurate with what I’m feeling on PS ZP + WANTED ZP. I even went through an identical moment as him where I compared the feelings to what I’d expect from Khan.

I’ll try to add a few insights to what @NinjaGazin has already written (may be some redundance)

The Primal aspect of PS is very strong as if the masculine sexuality within me is more unleashed and open. That caveman feeling and connection to earth I have something similar which I attribute to being in tune with the raw animalistic sexuality of one’s self. My first listen to PS ZP felt like I was being injected with primal sexuality and turning into some kind of sexual beast. It’s a powerful feeling of uninhibited sexual godfidence. I also feel very intensly sexual most of the time and my libido increased very high. I feel like it’s boosted me socially overall and that automatic social calibration is notable. I feel hyper in tune with women and it’s like I can read them very well all of a sudden and know what they really want. There is an increased sense of dominance and masculinity but it doesn’t clash with WANTED’s nonchalant coquettishness/playfulness.

The way I see it is, even though WANTED changes your personality a bit, you’re still a man and have that core expression of masculinity and sexuality. PS focuses more on that deep core part of you whereas WANTED is more of a layer on top of that, so it neither erases it or clashes with it. I’m more dominant in general but the coquettishness feels like it has more precision and I can exhibit it better, stepping on the gas with the right amount of pressure and taking my foot off at the right time. The mixture of sexual beastliness/primal dominance combined with coquettishness of WANTED just amplifies everything, making things even more sexual and attractive. I feel like an animal right now lol, and well

I’ll share a wild experience in my jourlnal lol, I don’t want to throw off the main discussing thread.

But I must say I’m enjoying this a lot too, as they compound/stack very well

[GoldenTiger]

I have a little bit of that vibe on PS, like my repressed sexuality is slowly expressing itself.

After my washout, I’ll be running 21 days of Khan St1 to heal my sexuality to try and make PS express itself more!

So I’ll be running Wanted+Khan St1+Mogul (I really need help to lower my spending and work on my research paper!).

[Lion]

@GoldenTiger

So I’ll be running Wanted+Khan St1+Mogul

Please reconsider running Khan ST1 along with anything else. The emotional/mental healing could overwhelm Mogul and WANTED.

Try Khan ST1 alone for 21 days (45 days is even better).

If you want to add anything to Khan ST1, titles like Sanguine, Elixir, Regeneration (especially the ZP) and Spartan are better fits since they will reduce the recon from Total Breakdown.

Am speaking from my personal experience of Khan ST1 overwhelming UA when I stacked them together.

Not to discourage you though. If you feel strongly to run Mogul and WANTED with Khan TB, go for it.

[GoldenTiger]

Yeah, well in terms of volume I’ll still be following the regular schedule :

Wanted+Mogul
Rest
Khan St1
Rest
Etc.

I still want to use ZP’s boosting effect on QV2 AND get the massive benefits of running ZP (let’s not hide it, ZP’s healing is still crazy powerful).

I believe Khan’s breakdown could be supported by ZP’s self actualization… Even if Khan St1 is agressive

@Lion

The emotional/mental healing could overwhelm Mogul and WANTED

There are good chances I won’t have manifestation from this stack, but when I ran Khan St1 back in the days it wasn’t that bad… Yeah, anxiety, lot of emotions surging up… It’s hard to run… Even on Q version is was rougher than Dragon Reborn.

I think running 1 loop every 4 days, yes will not allow Wated and Mogul to express themself fully, but will still help both of them be expressed better in the long run (because Khan is sexual and does contain part of mogul script). I actually remember having some blooming after a few days of using Khan St1, like the calm after the tempest.

I think the only way to see how this works is to try it. Worst case scenario, I get a shit ton of anxiety, hunger and a sense of overloading, in which case I will probably just drop Khan St1 and wait for ZP

[Lion]

That does make sense, @GoldenTiger. It’s a good plan.

[Theacrobat]

@GoldenTiger

After my washout, I’ll be running 21 days of Khan St1 to heal my sexuality to try and make PS express itself more!

PS has healing script related to sexual issues.