That’s why I just add SPS: Endocrine System
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Well I personally feel you do need it if your in your 50s or later no way will you be able to get the free testosterone levels you had when you were 30.
Wife now is saying her libido is rising to college levels despite constantly studying for brutal exams and having a 1 year old. Also her suggestive dreams keep continuing.
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You told her about the Primal Nights right?
I did, she doesn’t really care about my subliminal usage.
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Nonetheless, thank you for being honest about it to your significant other.
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I wish this thread was more active, I think script wise this may be one of my favorite subs 
Definitely need it in my future custom.
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Experiences?
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You mean, my own? I noticed I got exceptionally horny and sexual in the past on PN, got very physical, loved it, thought about my crush in very primal ways
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This sub has taken my sexual performance to new heights. It is the best sexual sub from my library. I have most of them except for ROTNW and PS.
It has all the benefits of KB as far as sexual performance goes without having to use KB including hardness and staying power but with an extra exotic boost. One day will stack KB3 and this as an experiment.
For best results I like to run a 5-7 min loop 4-6 hours before sex. Have tried 30-90s microloops minutes before and it has no noticeable effect for me. Seems like it needs time to activate.
Currently use as a booster sub over and above my full stack but only on days I plan on getting it on with my girlfriend. Also haven’t noticed any extra attention/attraction when out in public but the sex is out of this world.
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How does it compare to the sex mastery sub ? Plus can you detail a bit more of the actual bedroom results and effects it’s had on you and your partner etc
Regarding Sex Mastery, I only ran that one for a cycle and a half. Was running Dragon Reborn alongside it and I didn’t notice much back then (summer 2022). After a few loops of KB1 it was like SMX scripting was then activated. PN is like a combo of SMX and KB for me.
As for bedroom results, it makes my partner sexier to me. Like the aura of lust affects me more so than my lady. For her it’s a secondary effect. She is effected by virtue of me being more aroused by her which then makes her feel sexier in return.
I have found new angles to pleasure her with my fingers and we now have a sex towel haha.
The pillow talk needs some conscious guidance as it’s not something that comes naturally but have made some progress with that.
Another stack that is comparable that I ran in January is Old Khan ST4, KB3, and new Primal. I start new Khan ST4 next week but I figured why run a whole stack dedicated to sexual fulfillment when I can focus on other areas I want to improve while still getting the same or better fulfillment with PN as a booster.
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Is PN a sub that you have to use consistently to get results ? I used it a few times and didn’t see any results when interacting with women. Primal and PS were far better for me i got results instantly.
Try running it with KB and/or add a practice that helps you circulate your sexual energy. It might be that you lack the fuel for the aura, so to speak.
I’m actually surprised at the lack of reports for PN here, because Libertine seems to have been real popular according to the older posts on the forum. If anything, shouldn’t PN be a much stronger version of Libertine+extra stuff?
It seems that people got almost instant results with Libertine back then, and it was used before going out. PN now seems to be used by people who are already in a relationship. Might be wrong, but that’s the impression I get from reading the reports here.
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I had more immediate and better results with Revelation of The Nectar Within in terms of passive attraction. Not sure why it is, may have something to do with energy circulation but can’t say really.
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Maybe it is because there is less resistance in you to RoTNW right now? I found this old comment by Saint regarding this issue:
All the more reason to focus on Khan Black for quite some time, right?
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Hi @GoldenBird great to have you back on the forum i am currently running a custom which incorporates stage 1 of Khan black and khan stage 1.
Should i run PN right after my custom ?
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Wrong diagnostic, I ran the 4 stages already with not much success.
Whaaaaaaat???
microloops? full loops? WHAAT??
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I generally have the impression that running two intense healing subs at the same time will either slow down the process or overshadow one another. Or create too much recon. But since you already paid for your custom, might as well give it a shot.
I haven’t run PN myself, but I would assume that it would give you the best results if you pair it with something that powers its aura, so that would be KB. Also it seems like it builds on Primal->Primal Seduction.
Luckily, I am not a doctor 
What I wrote was meant as a general recommendation, which in turn was based on Saint’s own observation.
From your words, I just get the idea that you didn’t get your anticipated result. You alone can know the factors that went into that. It’s not the subs, since some obviously have the time of their life on it from their first cycle, while others keep running it for months without much to report. Obviously, it is the individual’s response that is the variable, whereas the sub is the constant.
I got the feeling that if you run the subs here long enough, you will automatically find your ideal stack that’ll help you solve your most pressing issues.