Main Disc. Thread - Libertine Ultima

#974

Hey @Brandon,

I was curious about your thinking about Libertine, so I read the description of Libertine and in one of its sentences says " We recommend stacking Libertine with Sex & Seduction, Sex Mastery X, Primal Seduction (and PS: Iron Throne), Khan", all of those titles according to the descriptions (except Sex Mastery X) are specific to attract women. Maybe you could use Sex Mastery and Libertine or just Libertine and try to see what happens. Or Ascension/Emperor with Libertine to have a better foundation. Just my two cents!!

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#975

@RVconsultant - I think the equivalent for me as a heterosexual man is my attraction towards lesbians, bisexual women and women who are “taken”. I wonder if it is the feeling of being so highly attractive that you are chosen by those who are not “supposed” to choose you but it happens and hence a boost in my ego.

PS: I have had “admirers” from married women and one bisexual woman so far. This was before I ever came across SubClub though and the experience hasn’t stopped after SubClub.

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#976

Did a 1.5 week washout and after reading this thread I decided to run v2 for the hell of it. Will have plenty of opportunity to test this weekend and report back.

Could someone tell me how long the immediate goal-scripted effects of Ultimas usually last? 1-2 days? I want to game plan my listening and get the full effects for today and tomorrow. I can def get in 1-2 loops in the next couple hours, but not sure if I’ll be able get any listening in with my setup tomorrow. Might try to sneak 3 loops in today if the effects will carry over till tomorrow evening.

#977

It’s said to start with 1 loop and eventually scale it to maximum of 3. I’d take that advice. Although it’s your choice as always.

#978

@RVconsultant

Honestly nothing feels better than being accepted, I don’t think people understand how much something as small as your gestures/words can change a whole persons self worth. Thank you again.

In regarding a to the custom and majors - I already have a wealth custom made.

My Wealh Custom actually has EoG Stage 1 + 4 and E:HoM - I’ve dropped it for now to focus on Khan which has truly opened me up so far and worked on a lot of things I was struggling with. I’ve also used Stark in the past which was one of my favourite majors to use. - I also have a journal for both my custom and my Stark useage.

In regards to other people who are gay posting, I’ve seen a couple but they aren’t all over the board. I think I’m probably the main guy who posts that’s gay but I could be unsure? I’ve seen a couple ask questions in the past. I do hope they feel more comfortable if they see this post.

I may end up making a custom out of Stage 4 Khan (after I get to it), Stark and EoG in the future to fill out all my needs along with some of the manifestation modules you mentioned. What do you think? I feel like all three fill out my goals for what I want in life but me trying to stack them doesn’t work at the moment. I want to use Khan first however and go to my wealth custom most possibly before I end up making another custom though.

For my breakthrough, I did yeah. I actually credit Khan/Libertine for helping me with it and allowing me to open up and make an attractive aura. - I don’t want to detail the thread by the way (in general) - I really credit these two for helping me get this. I really was oblivious with Libertine but I think the little actions of looking better (thanks to Khan) and taking more action in doing certain things allowed both subs to open up more and manifest things happening.

#979

@sex

Eventually I will try Sex Mastery however for now I think I want to stick with Khan. Someone asked me this in my journal too and I actually asked the question when I first started using Emperor which was my first sub.

I believe the way it works is that the sub works to the way you want it to (which means that Khan could be used for business or it could be used for women - in my case men) which is why two people could have entirely different results.

When I asked Saint (for Emperor) I believe he stated something along the lines of it being perfectly fine to use because it wouldn’t change my sexuality or make me like women or anything but would do the same thing that it has for you guys just for me with men - if that’s what is was interested in working towards because the sub focuses on making you attractive overall.

I’m assuming, I could be wrong, that it’s the same for Khan and other titles like that.

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#980

@Lion

Those are intriguing points about being choosen when one isn’t supposed to, or perhaps something that might be unattainable… and I guess metaphorically that being the irresistible force that attracts the immobile object.

For me, I try to focus on telling my subconscious to do what I CONSCIOUSLY want rather than just tell myself to do what I want. I want to at least think there is some logic and rationality in there. :grin:

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#981

@RVconsultant - haha! Yes of course. The conscious mind gives direction to the subconcious. Coincidently, am listening to the audible version of Dr Joseph Murphy’s The Power of Your Subconscious Mind right now.

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#982

@Brandon

You are welcome! Feeling accepted always feels great!

My reading style on this forum has no pattern, so it’s news to me other gay people are posting. I’m glad they are because that probably means they feel comfortable doing so.

About your subliminals… after I ran all 4 stages of EoG, I chucked stage 4 into a custom subliminal along with Sultan and StarkQ. Actually, that you put in stage 1 and 4 of EoG I would think that would be comprehensive because you have covered the healing with all the other stages as well. So from what I know, Stark plus EoG stage 1 and 4 should cover many wealth related objectives.

In terms of Khan, I did do all 4 stages, but I prefer StarkQ. If you are wanting a more masculine presence and dominance in your personality, from what I know about Khan, that should help with that.

In terms of LU, the action I take is fairly minimal. I find “hi” works fairly well.

Here’s a bit about v1:

Also if you thought Khan stage 1 was helpful, have you considered other healing type programs such as FEBRUUS or Regeneration?

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#983

Joseph Murphy is big on conscious affirmations which you have to impress onto your subconscious mind by constantly maintaining your mental diet.

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#984

Oh for sure they’re definitely there, even if they’ve made one post or a couple. Like I said I think I’m the main guy posting though.

How did your custom go with Stark and EoG? What kinds of results did you get?

Why do you prefer Stark to Khan? I also did buy Khan to feel more alpha and have more masculinity. I didn’t feel that Stark had that masculine edge. Khan fills my sexual side along with LU, Stark gives me my creativity and fame along with BLU and my custom gives me wealth.

Yeah a minimal action such as that should definitely help for sure. I’ve just never been one to notice people fancying me because I’ve never, before subliminals, been open to it. I’ve always hoped but I’m not the kind of guy people tell - not yet anyway. I just don’t want to say it to the wrong person aha.

I actually found out a couple years ago a guy I liked in secondary school actually liked me but I never knew he was gay until he told me.

#985

@King - Yes. Repeating affirmations consciously so that your subconcious is programmed with those instructions.

#986

I honestly do think that questioning techniques work far better. Affirmations can be discounted or outright denied as false by the SubC mind.

“I am a mack daddy with women” is an obvious example.

Whereas asking “When in my life did i first notice that I attract with women with ease?” presupposed/assumes the truth of the statement…it MUST so the question can be answered.

A good follow up question to the above one would be “What can I do today to recapture that in my life even more fully?”

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#987

@Palpatine - I have heard about this technique. It does make sense but for some reason I don’t prefer asking myself questions. Maybe I feel like am in school or something lol.

#988

@Brandon

“How did your custom go with Stark and EoG? What kinds of results did you get?”

Here are some of the results I’ve got:
I feel no nervousness about touching money.
I feel more comfortable handling financial matters.
I wrote a plan for the next 10 years, and I feel calm about reading it, whereas 6 months ago I would have told myself I was being unrealistic and grandiose.

“Why do you prefer Stark to Khan?”

Khan was giving me a push in a certain direction, and then no more than that push. When I started to reflect on why I wasn’t being this badass, polarizing, ultra-macho stereotype I thought might have been implied by the description page, I realized I only wanted a small percentage of that badass-ness. So when @SaintSovereign and @Fire say that the subliminals are NOT going to make you do anything, I consider this example as proof. I didn’t turn into an incarnation of a modernized Genghis Khan. I got the amount of the effect I consciously or unconsciously wanted, and then it stagnated. I honestly didn’t get much in terms of sexual results, but I didn’t really mind so I guess I wasn’t that motivated to get that aspect of Khan.

As for Stark, I noticed something similar to what you said… my popularity, likability, and creativity have increased.

In terms of changing your self image to being someone who would be fancied by those you want to be fancied by, again, I would encourage you to look at the manifestation, results enhancement, and healing modules. Also perhaps Ascension might be something to read about. In terms of saying things to the wrong people, I’d encourage you to read about the Alchemist stage 1 at the regular store for a full description. I noticed that when I ran Alchemist stage 1 for about 2 weeks, a lot of “bad luck” just seem to disappear.

“I actually found out a couple years ago a guy I liked in secondary school actually liked me but I never knew he was gay until he told me.”

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve reflected on experiences and memories from years gone by and realized “Oh my! She was hitting on me! She really liked me! How did I miss that?” Well, I think because I didn’t think anyone would be crushing on me.

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#989

How would you explain tour experience with khan?
Especially the wealth aspect or business?
What direction did it push you to?

Feel free to PM me …dont want to steal the thread

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#990

PM me too! @RVconsultant :slight_smile:

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#991

I’ve been using khan stage 1 a lot lately, and done a couple days test running Khan stage 2
and am blown away at how it almost instantly manifests sexual opportunities as well as has me feel like the most desired man in the world, the best option for any woman, and has woman engaging me.
This could be in combination with the sex mastery/emperor terminus I am running, but adding khan stage 1 and 2 at points enhanced this greatly and shifted my sense of abundance and available woman. As well as had me pursuing woman in my life very strongly from a non-needy place. I won’t be running khan in full likely for a while but cool to see these effects.

How was your experience with EOG?

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#992

@pacman and @Palpatine and @Azriel

Okay one more non-LU thing and then as @pacman rightly pointed out, back to the topic at hand.

“How would you explain tour experience with khan?”
It helped me feel better about being a man. I became more comfortable deciding what “a real man” is for myself, rather than all the negativity that is implied through mass media.

“Especially the wealth aspect or business?”
I think the best way to answer this is that I began to feel more comfortable with the idea of deciding my own destiny instead of feeling comfortable if someone else had done something similar to what I wanted. In other words rather than looking for a role model for guidance, or a role model as validation that my idea was worthwhile, I simply started to think of ideas based on what I wanted to do.

“What direction did it push you to?”
I got more provocative in a way that was so outrageous it was funny. Like I might get in line and start bantering with the woman cashier by starting the conversation like “I know what you’re thinking. And yes I did find everything just fine and I’m fine. And you look fine too. So now on to more important things. Let’s stop talking about me and now talk about what I want. I’m having a great day and I hope yours is great, too, and I bet it will be even better when you get done with work. I hope you have something to look forward to after work. I know I do. But I’m not telling you what it is because I don’t know you very well.” And I’d just go on and on like that. A woman in a good mood would likely just bust up laughing and get giddy. A woman in a bad mood might start laughing. And there were a few who just looked at me like I had warped in from another planet. If she looked at me as though I was from another planet, I’d say something like “I know you weren’t expecting to see me today. That’s okay. Neither was I until I looked in the mirror. So I know just how you feel. It’s just that I’m used to it now.”

@Azriel

I’m glad Khan is working out for you so well.

With EoG, the main thing I noticed was a major overhaul of my attitudes about money. Almost no nervousness about money. That’s the main effect it’s had on me.

Okay everyone… back to the thread of LU.

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#993

@RVconsultant - I’d love to continue our convo, I tried to inbox you. Do you mind is continuing and you inboxing me?

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In regards to Libertine, I’m really trying sit my intentions and run with that whilst taking little actions that I feel necessary. We’ll see how it goes.

I’m trying to find other people too so we’ll see.