Main Disc. Thread - Khan ZP

Thank You for this
It will be very helpful for me for my remaining khan journey & other subs

I will look at sales copy take action & journal if I achieved it or not

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Thinking about this now I think Khan is a program for those who could be patient, if you think about the archetype which you’re trying to achieve which is far from the person you are. It also depends on the society you’ve been raised in and also the environment and I’m sorry to say this but the society I’ve been brought up in is full of simps and glorify simps.

I remember a girl I was gaming who told me plainly she’s only looking for money, not money, not relationship and I can’t give her that. She later said yes to a guy who took her on a trip to Dubai.
This happened while I had just began listening to khan stage 4 zp

I won’t be changing subs rather I’ll stick to Khan because I’ve gotten a taste of the man I could become and it feels so good it just takes time to achieve

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How long have you been using Khan, and what are you stacking it with?

Protect this guy at all costs

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no disrespect but to me all those sound nice guy behavior and because of that she didn’t respect you so she was trying to dominate you and make you a beta when you asked for her number. or very likely that she is just a feminist and wants to see if you gonna be “toxic” or not. because in their eyes a beta is not a “toxic” guy and they can control him and dominate him easily.

and btw you should never ask a girl for her number it comes off as needy (you can frame it way better). and you should never talk for a while, there’s no need, it shows lack of confidence.

and of course she tried to blame you when you didn’t comply to her terrible behavior, even having the audacity to tell you that you missed out on her like she’s a goddess that descends from the heavens one in a million years and that was your only chance. her ego is way up there. i call 5 cat bags delusion score.

unfortunately that’s most women nowadays that get likes on instagram. their ego is being inflated a ton and they think they deserve cristiano ronaldo. i’m talking about average hot women that have no other value other than their beauty.

anyways you dodged a bullet brother. trust me. you deserve a girl that respects you but you got work to do for that to happen. i realise my post can be very triggering to you but i hope you understand i’m trying to help and that you need to change

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I know your post is not directed to me and you didn’t ask anyone for tips. I respect you completely.

But I want to point out, that telling someone to “Stop being emotional” is the purest example for a lack of emotional intelligence.

I suggest that you or anyone else that resonates with phrases like that, to run ChosenZP and work on developing their understanding, empathy and leadership skills.

It’s incredibly beneficial in general and can improve all of your interactions + relationships… it’s not just for work environments or leadership positions.

One of the pro-tips listed is (Chosen will positively affect all areas of your life.)


@Vkluff , you’ve mentioned here that you haven’t noticed much with WantedZP and I think I can touch on potentially why.

The dynamic of this recent experience you’ve shared:

is on the complete opposite spectrum of WantedZP.

There is nothing you could’ve done differently in the interaction itself. The trajectory was already decided…

You see, it’s a matter of position and that was determined far before… possibly even from your very first interaction.

It’s built into the relationship, through both of your frames and subconscious beliefs and you are providing each other feedback.

This is how the relationship will manifest, regardless of what conscious approach you take, what situational adjustments you make or what choice of words you choose.

The PUA community loves all that overthinking, complexity shit because they don’t know how to take advantage of their subconscious mind and go through a shift to where they can win just by being themselves.

I hope I’m making sense here.

What I’m saying is that you just have to change the position that you operate from and you’ll never manifest experiences like that ever again.

But doing so, means you have to have a higher self-worth with regards to women
You have to become the ultimate and absolute QUALIFIER with ZERO wiggle room.
That’s what WantedZP will turn you into.

The hot women that every guy thirsts for, ogles at and gushes for, will make you yawn and look at your watch.

Anyways, the Wanted archetype is a coquette and it seems that the woman you were engaging with was in the position of being the prize/qualifier.
It’s almost like she was running Wanted (though I must say, her coquette is terrible, lol)…

She told you to say “please”, lol… That’s something that I often make women say as a flirty and playful gesture.

You know, I always hear men talk about how women “shit-test” them…
They’ve never been in the other realm, lol.

Once you’ve crossed into a certain level of self-worth and wantedness, you’ll be the one shit-testing women… to see if they’re even worth the fun.

You see how the dynamic is completely switched around? This is a rare thing in society, it’s not programmed or accepted as the default way of things.

This is somewhat true. The women on Instagram are getting their likes and validation… but from who?

Have you seen those guys in the comments?
I looked at comments on pictures of the woman I’m dating and a lot of them I can tell are from porn addicted, creep type of guys with low self worth.

This is who they are getting their ego pumped up from. There’s 2 genders, male and female… but there are like 2 different species of men, lol.

The pumped up ego, validation, “self worth”, and qualifer position that these women have ONLY applies to 1 species of men.

For the other species, it’s absolutely useless. It doesn’t work.

When they encounter this species of men, it’s like seeing a ghost. It doesn’t make sense to them, because they’re SO used to the other species, in fact most of their identity is BUILT through interaction with the other species.

I hope I’m making sense here, lol. Of course there is no 2 species and it’s just for the means of explaining the point…

They need something interesting and you have to be someone that separates from the rest.

On nearly 5 months of Wanted, I do exactly this…

I automatically make them overthink and second guess themselves, just like you did here.
But before and during as well, not just after, lol.

To summarize, you’re the complete opposite of being Wanted (operating from the position of the absolute invincible qualifer/prize). That’s why you haven’t noticed much with it, it’s going to take time.
It’s not going to jump you in position too quickly because that requires your beliefs to change and that’s a process… A potentially longer one for you, because of how much you contrast it.

If you want to do Wanted ZP then use it consistently for 6 months and I doubt that you’ll attract women who can engage with you like that, lol.

Khan seems to be working well for you though, so that is good too.
I am merely shedding some light on a subliminal that you used, yet weren’t satisfied with.

Keep it going, you’re on the right track.

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Stop being emotional was my way of saying stop making it personal

And I’ll use it here again

you are out of context. @Vkluff was being emotional because a girl rejected him for not behaving like a beta male and he thought of stopping khan! that’s extremely emotional and he should work on his confidence and self esteem and stop being so needy, plus guess what if he had 5 other girls to text and meet he wouldn’t even care. why on earth would he put her on so much importance. he has no other options and she can smell it. girls will say all the time that they like the beta male cuck but secretly will go and f*ck the alpha male that has many girls around him. girls don’t like needy beta male nice guys. in fact they just use them for when they are over 28 and want to get married and no alpha male wants them. so i agree 100% with @Yazooneh

plus @Luther24 yes as you can see i know what simps are. and to answer to you, i don’t even like most girls with that inflated high ego. 99% of girls who are pretty have this kind of ego. i don’t like em a bit. i don’t even care to show them who i am. i want emotionally stable girls in my life with a healthy self esteem, but those are very rare so i’m in inflated ego hell for a while. btw i see wanted is working. you have this mystery which makes you be perceived as high value and i guess girls are like “who the fuck is that guy” reactions. interesting. that makes me wanna try wanted some time. maybe next year

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also congrats on being concise and not trying to explain yourself. i like that. i think you are integrating khan well based on that

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The context and what was meant by it doesn’t matter.

I was referring to the method of communication, how it’s received and interpreted as well as one’s awareness of that…

Which by the way, is also why it was completely ineffective.

See this:

Lol, also you’re incorrect… Nothing about the experience he described indicates being “extremely emotional”. Read what he wrote again, it seems logically sound.

The guy got rejected and is trying to figure things out and the first thing he’s met with is “stop being emotional”. This offers nothing. This forum is going to completely grow out of stuff like that within the next year or 2.

Now usually I wouldn’t point stuff like this out… I could care less.

But it leads into something that I think needs more emphasis here when it comes to subliminals like Khan.

A Khan has great communication. They are extremely good listeners and have very strong social skills. They’re automatic high EQ.

This is the case for ANY type of archetype for an Alpha Male. I don’t care whether you’re a Stark, Khan, Emperor, Ascended Mogul, etc.

Yes you’re dominant, competitive, authoritative, assertive and powerful.
But you’re also able to network and create strong relationships.

If you want social power, then you’re automatically going to have strong leadership.

Powerful people lead.

You’re going to need to have a completely mature mindset and way of operating/conducting yourself.

That’s also going to breathe through your use of language.

If anything I’m saying here irks you or you feel is not aligned with you, then Khan is going to break you.
You want to be a Khan, right? Well you’re going to have to become completely congruent.

All this super cognitive, hyper-analytical shit of power dynamics, etc goes out the window as you learn to be present and secure in yourself.

Whatever type of insecurities one is suppressing are going to be faced in their entirety.

If you have insecurities and are in denial of them or want to desperately cling to them while still becoming a powerful alpha badass…

Then Khan ZP is going to break you… and this is especially going to be common for a program such as Khan because the more insecure someone is, the more attractive the concept of it is.
The desire for power and dominance.

Often times, men (especially the young) have this convolutedly nonsensical perspective of what an Alpha Male is, how they’re supposed to act and be, etc because they pick up a bunch of crap from the internet and movies.

There is easy access everywhere to a lot of circle jerk information from clueless men running around that other clueless men just eat up. Cluelessness loves company.

We have a bunch of incongruent men googling how to be an Alpha Male and reading all this information, trying to mimic it and always being excessively aware/self-conscious of it. The more analytical you are of an ideal, the less you are of it. You cannot fully embody it because you’re always projecting it. Anyone will learn this as they become congruent.

Development is fascinating and you get to be grateful for experiencing both sides of the coin. After all these are just experiences.

Anyways, the social dominance in Khan is “dialed to the maximum”.
If you are to be socially dominant, you need strong interpersonal skills, period.

So expect those parts to kick in at some point, if they haven’t already.

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I started listening to Khan stage 1 qv2 dec 21st last year and was stacking it then with Mind’s eye terminus² and Ql stage 1. January 6th I moved on to Ql stage 2. I moved on to Khan stage 2 after 26 days…

I did a 5days washout before I then switched to zp on Feb13th and then my listening stack was
Wanted Zp, Khan stage 2 Zp, Ql stage 1 zp.
After my first cycle and 5days of washout I moved to stage 3 of Khan and Ql stage 4 of Ql, I listened for a week before I decided to switched to Khan stage 4 and Ql stage 4 without removing wanted zp and added Ascension chamber.

I wasn’t getting results from Khan whereas I was getting results from Ql so I decided to switch to remove Ql and replace it with R.I.C.H, that was like 14days ago. I instantly started getting results from R.I.C.H zp and my financial life has been stable since then. This week is my third listening week before my 5days washout
So that’s 4months of listening to Khan so far

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Thanks I’ve come to that realization myself. .I’ve also come to the realization that i am the prize and its been showing in my interactions with ladies lately. The other day I was chatting with a girl and I told her I have to go sleep, she wanted me to remain but I told her no, I have to wake up early to go to the gym. Since then I haven’t chatted with her

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Spot on, you’ve got that right. Come to think of it, that was the Script of Khan stage 2 taking effect. Once again the reason I shared my experience and was looking to read other people experience was because I was trying to guage my actions and see if I was on the right track and yes I am even though I haven’t achieved my desired results

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Good! And I’m happy to see you didn’t get triggered and understood this behaviour is not right with girls. Just make it a goal to observe your behaviour and how girls react to it. This is the biggest gauge. The problem is that girls think they are always right with all that ego and that can make you question yourself. But soon enough you will understand how they operate underneath and how fragile they really are. Just make sure to take action and just go approach them as an experiment to see what happens. Forget chatting online or do it way less. Focused on having conversations with then face to face. If you make it a goal and not give up, you will succeed

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Yeah I hate to break it to you but you can’t read people at all. Yet you talk like you know it all. How men are, what khan does and all that. Your spiritual ego is huge so there’s really no point to try to tell you anything because you will disagree. And btw a khan is a man that doesn’t sugarcoat things, is not behaving in a fake politically correct way and acts and behaves with congruency and power and intensity. Maybe you missed that on your analysis. I’m also wondering how brainwashed you are by feminism. All you say is “toxic masculinity is bad”. “If you wanna be mature be a beta male”. That is not maturity, that is trying to fit in. We don’t need more political correctness in this world, it’s enough. And it’s hilarious that you basically say that social dynamics are useless and if you are “secure in yourself” you can be successful with girls. No it doesn’t work that way. You just don’t want to put the effort to understand social dynamics and frames. If you don’t do that you gonna fail miserably with girls. At least learn some red pill to understand how women and the world operates. And also you didn’t understand what @yazooneh said or why he said that and same goes for what I said. You misinterpreting things. Be more humble

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Bro you definitly need to start working out soon and get that edgyness out of your system :eyes:

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I’m still working out, it’s just not the same as punching, kicking, knee and elbowing things though :sweat_smile:

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That’s the part I remember :eyes: It’s not the same! Keep going your body’s gonna heal and you’llcbe able to push through!

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you are correct.

i have definitely oversimplified things and you are right that it can sometimes backfire and give you a desperate vibe.

but overall at least for me i find high sexual energy to be insanely underrated for success with women.

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I friend recommended i go back to stage 3 because I only listened to stage 3 zp for a week before moving to stage zp. Am I missing something?

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