Main Disc. Thread - Khan ZP v2

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#352

Ease off the Gass :fuelpump:

You don’t have to pump the brakes :wink:

Slow and easy wins the Khan race

Put into cruise control :sunglasses: brother

From what I’m reading looks like you want instant results, Khan is not for that. Now WB might give you what you are looking for.

Reduce your listening time like Saint said, give it an extra day before you loop to see results happen.

Everyone has good advice in this thread, but at the end of the day your the one driving :red_car: @Dare2fly

Do want a Ferrari or Bentley?

Choice is yours :wink::+1:

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#353

Skipping Stage 2 of Khan is a big mistake.
Some of the most important things happen there.
Stage 2 gave me much more recon than Stage 1.

It is really important that you do those stages one after another.
Do not skip stages. Do not listen to several stages at once.

WB should not even be in the stack in my opinion if you have not been at least 4 months on Khan Stage 1 and 2 each. WB is an advanced title that needs a strong foundation first.

All the stuff you described is basically that you are in constant heavy recon from overload and skipping stages in my opinion.

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#354

@KingofClubz thank you

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#355

I dont have any special recovery options.
There is plenty of infos about recon in some threads here. This one for example:

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#356

Your welcome :pray: :hugs:

#357

@FireDragon @KingofClubz @JCDenton thank you all for your feedback. you are right @JCDenton I’m on heavy recon due to running both stages and WB and its 2 days still feel the recon, today is my listening day shall i skip and give time to recover?
what are the instruction and experience as per switching to new stack altogether? i want to skip khan to WB? however what about stage 1 khan and WB+ RONW?
so you mean to say that if khan takes long-term to see results, so then some of the manifestation results i received was definitely from listening to WB and not khan 1&3?

#358

I can give a TLDR of my experiment in that thread.

Basically you want to get more clarity, and as saint said, confirmations. It’s the most reliable and long lasting method.

Other than that, the results of the experiments are mixed.
Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t.
Sometimes the relief only lasts for a few hours, sometimes they fix everything altogether.

The best method i found is to follow your intuition. If it tells you to get more water, get more. If it tells you to eat sweet food, do it. Etc. I believe there are scripts inside the subs to help you intuitively deal with recon.

Do it and see what happens, there’s only something to gain from giving your mind the space to process the subs.

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#359

I’m running WB and ST2 and the recon had gotten crazy. Luckily I’m one listening day away from a washout. Listen to these Khan lords.

PS: I only run microloops of WB too.

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#360

Thank you Victor, firedragon, king Esh
So now only 2 important questions I need answer on my way to correct path:
Since I want to stop listening to khan because of recons and my goals for short-term, I rather to switch to WB and rtnw, and I want to know this…if I need to switch the stack which is from khan to WB is it easy to just switch and start listening?, will i experience recon or stonewalling? I mean there is no hard rule for it say wait for 21days etc.?

I always wanted to run WB but got discouraged because literally there aren’t many solid reviews about it on the forums? Now guys you tell me what’s you experience with listening to WB have you had multiple sexual partners, what’s mentioned in the sales page?

#361

@Risky you ran Khan ST1, Wanted Black, Revelation Of Mind how was your experience? and how can i use the same for my situation?

thanks

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#362

There’s actually a rule for that.

Since you have 3 subs in your stack, you have to stop using at least one and wait for 12 days before adding a new sub to the stack.

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#363

I very rarely give advice to anyone on this forum, but, as a fellow Khan user, and being that I’m on my third cycle of Khan Stage 4 now, here’s two things I think you should consider doing. One, take an early washout. Two, eat something sweet or do something that will trigger a response in your pleasure centers of the brain. Masturbation is short lived and the come down from it will only make you more miserable. Stick to something sweet; I would go for Chocolates, either cake or mousse, as it is an aphrodisiac and should help with redirecting your focus.

When you start it up again, start with either Khan Stage 2 and or 3 and just listen to that. If you want to combine it with Wanted Black, you’re welcome to it, but, if you’re expecting an abundant sex life all of a sudden to pop off from it, it might be a while before you see that.

I know of only one person who paired Khan Stage 1 and 4 at the same time, and that was Alphamale, and I wouldn’t exactly use him as a role model to follow.

You also need to remember that Khan is an all rounder, it will transform you into the King of your domain - that is no easy task and takes a significant amount of time. If you just want women, I would wait until the new NRE experiences are out for Primal, or Primal Seduction and run one of those instead. Khan is not your get women sub. Khan is your go and conquer empires and bring them to their knees sub. Make sure you understand for yourself what you want and then plan accordingly. I’ve seen a lot of people on this forum try to take a sledgehammer to hammer a nail. It doesn’t work.

When you do figure out what you want, make sure you commit to that path for at least 6 months, because that’s how long it will take for you to get the best of the sub. Not to see results, you can probably see those within a cycle or two at most, but to truly get the best, stick to something long term.

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#364

I would take a week or two of no listening, then switch. Or use khan again but only listen to micro loops. Start with 1 minute etc

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#365

Word. WB had me in serious existential dread for some time.

Now In my second cycle of Khan stage 1 I see why.
Others might jump right ahead to something like St3/4, WB etc.

But there´s a reason they´ve designed it as a multistage.

It´s the full package, the complete transformation of your being, and that doesn´t come without making everything hidden conscious.

Experimentation is fine, but they´ve not made the first one purely focused on healing for no reason.

Don´t allow fomo to rule you, take it one at a time. Like others already said, if it´s too much, go slower.
Just stay consistent and you´ll reap the rewards.

No way around facing harsh emotions and truths. But whenever you feel like giving up on this, remember, your current emotions are what´s already there, getting cleared and reconciled, not where you are headed.

What are a few months of suffering against a lifetime of glory? @Dare2fly

See you on the other side :muscle:

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#366

Something I have to remind myself of

#367

Good post!

Imagine two runners running on a forest track that is well lit and there are signs telling you where to go… they both start at the same point but a short while into the track, one of the runners thinks he is clever and tries to shortcut through the dense forest to get ahead of the other guy…

But the other guy just digs down and continues on route. The cutter guy soon finds himself lost in the forest (jumping around on other subs all the time feeling frustrated.) Soon enough the guy who stuck to the trail found his way to the finish line yay… (took his time and went through all the stages and did not get distracted by recon or shiny new object syndrome.)

But the guy who got lost in the forest finally found his way back to the path… but he soon realized that he’d just went in a big circle and was at the same place he tried to shortcut from… and now he feels even worse…

Now comes the big question… will he actually now follow the path and understand that it is not a sprint, or will he once again try to cut? In the end it takes 10 times longer to get to the destination doing it with trying to cut where there’s no path.

The story ends that he gave up and simply jogged back the way he came to the start, sat in his car home and swore that next time he’d go for the hardest track there is, which is twice as long (switching to the new WB and playing 8 loops a day!)

The story ends again, he tried to cut again and gave up thinking next time hes going back to the original track (after serious recon on WB he’s going back to Khan again…)

To be continued…

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#368

@SaintSovereign and all, I have a listening questions, I’m currently listening to WB and thought to include the Q custom that I had created a while back build form : Ultima Custom, Solace A, which has 22 customs, can I listen alternative days of listen WB and custom. Rest. Continue? What’s the best listening for maximum benefit?

#369

You should probably update that custom bro lol, ZP custom upgrade is $50 I believe

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#370

Khan + champion custom

Every time I finish a cycle of emperor and go back to Khan every thing feels alot smoother

No neediness in regards to women anymore and feel fully locked into my purpose . I mentally go back to last possible sexual fumble and seeing how I could have approached things better.

Weirdly enough I started going to a church again (I still have alot of things I disagree with in regards to organized religion) mostly to be a part of a community (which in my honest opinion has been the hardest thing to do after graduating college ) . During my use of emperor I actually did seem to want to connect with my faith .

Socially I feel like people gravitate towards me in a way they haven’t in years .

This could be the spartan in my custom having an effect but I’m ready to tear through a couple of major challenges to shakeup my life

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#371

I just had a cool little manifestation and though I’m only running customs, Khan is my only core related to money. (I have wealth limit destroyer and sultan and void of creation in it)

I left Sam’s Club (whole chain in America attached to Walmart) and they always check your receipt leaving. It always annoys me. The lady found an item I didn’t pay for in my shopping cart, which I found odd as my receipt showed the correct number of items as in the cart. It turns out a double scanned a much more expensive item. (I figured this out before leaving store.) She saved me at least $20. I appreciated her doing her job and told her so! :slight_smile:

This may be small but I’m trying to get out of debt and almost out. Every dollar counts.

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