Recently I have been exploring Qigong practices. As I am novice here, it seems there is too much choice on YT and variety of practices. Can someone with more experience in Qigong guide me what channels/videos proved most useful for you in terms of increasing and cultivating sexual energy?
Will be much appreciated. 
Edging has some benefits that Iâve seen:
⢠temporarily increased focus
⢠more bodily awareness
And it can at times take the edge off of a rampant libido.
I believe I read that the person in question wasnât edging to porn or erotic images. My line of âdisasterâ was referring to the potential to be drawn, in the heat of the moment, into watching smut which of course causes its own desensitization issues, outside of PE.
That was more of a personal projection.
But, idk really. Iâm still undecided on my stance on masturbation/edging in general, for multiple reasons.
To wrap this up though, the idea of using a fleshlight to combat PE actually seems kinda useful, to a point.
I remember when I was with my ex and in one of our dry spells, I bought myself a FL kinda thing, and using that thing and then having sex with her, my sensitivity was way less pronounced. I didnât suffer from PE though so it actually irked me.
Relapsing way too much on stg 3 hope it can stop on stg4
Thereâs a couple of ways you can approach answering this one. The popular answer goes that even if youâre just edging, youâre losing energy through the process, theyâll point to the pre-cum and other sexual fluids that leak out after an erection as taking a lot of energy to create, thereâs the way the breathing tends to change, and so on. In other words, the popular answer provides a materialist answer to the question. And this has its usefulness. Paret goes a little beyond this in MAE on pages 51-55 of that book, and there are of course several tantras (the Shiva tantras especially) which have techniques for working with and refining the energy. But always with these sexual techniques the great difficulty is that the less existing mastery of your own body that you have, the greater the difficulty in mastering the powerful forces of sexuality through what is essentially an aberrant or artificial use of that energy. It would be more helpful to many to simply be aware of and follow this energy within their being when it arises, to learn its patterns and its nature in the same way you would meditate or contemplation on some other subject.
The less popular answer involves the reason people practiced brahmacharya in the Hindu world, or prescribed rules governing sex in various Western cultures. The love of pleasure for its own sake leads to attachment to the world. It also leads to feminisation of men, in that to seek out pleasure and to similarly seek situations which avoid pain leads to making poor life choices.
Edging (as others here have pointed out) focuses on the physical stimulation. There have also evolved variations on it (on pornographic websites) which try to maximise these problems by combining edging to erotic images with subliminal affirmations, hypnotic and psychological techniques, under the name of gooning. Edging is very pleasant, and of course aiming to maximise the length of time you can go without cumming will draw a person in to automatic behavior very easily.
You would get more benefits from slowing down and being more mindful and intimate with your partner during sex, and not being so focused on competitive measuring up to other men.
This (the active seeking to prolong and multiply pleasure, the focus on quantifying sex or reducing it to a physical act) is the same problem that caused people to wrongly believe that the Tantras were all about sex and sexual ritual rather than reaching to the deep teachings about consciousness they contained.
But if someone runs KB for long enough, maybe add in something like GLM, theyâll be able to live and experience what Iâm describing and wonât need all these words.
Does anyone else have experience with stg 3 making them relapse alot but having better control on stg 4?
Trying pairing it with something that will make effective use of the massive amounts of sexual energy ST3 is supposed to generate. Have a read of the description of stage 3 in the first post on this thread, youâll see they explain really simple that you need to have something to aim that thing at.
Reason ST4 doesnât have the same problem is it contains the other stages (including healing/strengthening the energy channels) already within it. So if youâre relapsing on 3, more runs of the earlier stages would probably help.
Contemplating just starting kb stg 4 5 days early, im tired of relapsing on this stage, also i dont see why not as saint and a few other jumped straight to stg 4
I donât think the subs are âmakingâ you, me or anyone relapse.
Also, Saint held off on releasing ST4 for months after the release of this sub.
I canât find the quote, but I think he also spoke about how sexual subconscious patterns can be quite stubborn and take some time to change, alongside the energetic development being a slow process, so the encouragement is to go slow.
That said, I had a few ârelapsesâ these past few days, ones I allowed to happen.
Going to conciously guide KB1 to help me with abstinence for a while. Wasting the life-juice does lead to an increase in fatigue, anxiety, etc.
could you explain why?
Edit: nevermind just saw the answers sorry
Stage 4 to me is more of what I was hoping Stage 3 to be, particularly in terms of energy cultivation and control. I listened to Stage 1 and 2 for two cycles each, and 3 for only one.
Iâve been on KB4 since October 25th, I last relapsed around October 28th, so itâs been about 70 days. KB4 has been the gift that keeps on giving, so I hope you get the most out of it too.
Stage 3 is more focused than stage 4 which rolls all the experience of the previous three stages into a synthesis and adds additional stuff.
With the multi-stagers, its always worthwhile going back over old stages to ensure youâve covered all the ground you need to. It adds power to the 4th stage.
Is this better than just spending a bit more time at each stage?
= didnât spend enough time on stages 1 and 2. Your energy channels are not able to hold the extra energy from Stage 3.
Because, and this is also in my experience, Stage 4 is âeasierâ than Stage 3, because Stage 4 also comes with the energy channel cleaning and widening effects of Stages 1 and 2.
You should also use conscious guidance and tell your subconsicousness where you want that sexual energy to be directed to.
Itâs not âbetterâ or âworseâ because there is no comparison going on here.
The reason I said itâs âalways worthwhileâ going back over the old stages is that, having run quite a few multi-stagers in the last 3.5 years, Iâve learned from experience that it can be notoriously difficult to tell when an early stage is âdoneâ, especially with a stage 2 or 3.
People will mistake the feeling of ânothing happeningâ or lack of resistance as a sign that the stage has run its course, or else they get cocky and assume their channels are fine or they donât need so much of the additional skills learning with QL ST2 for example.
So usually the solution to recon on the later stages is to go back over the old territory a bit more. Itâs easy to make arguments for forging ahead that sound good at the time, but (again from experience), its usually better to tell part of yourself to STFU. Itâs also usually the solution to a stage 4 feeling weak or not delivering what it says it does.
As i am alot older then most members here the standard 1 or 2 cycle run of each stage may not work for me as i have alot of sexual insecurities that i have to overcome.
So i am going to keep running this stage for at least 5 cycles. I am telling everyone because its a commitment i want to make.
I think ill hop on the kb train as my third sub and do the same.
Have you seen an increase in attraction from kb1?
Iâm on my third cycle of KB1, up to 6 minutes this week, and 7 minutes next week.
It is a slow burner, but this morningâs listening session left me feeling grounded, smooth, heavy.
Building up that thick masculine energy.
Iâll probably be on stage 1 for another 3 cycles or so, until I feel enough progress has been made.
Super slick sub. Itâs like liquid.
Infact, itâs like water, earth, fire and aether all in one.
Some cool alchemy here.
How old are you?