What energy practice do you do?
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I assume quite a few.
They recently mentioned that many of the customers here are from India or China. Not that that means they all do something like that, but I think it is fair to say that it increases the likelihood.
And I think that people who seriously consider running subs might also be open to the idea of energy cultivation, or any other form of self-cultivation to further their own potential. Nowadays, even universities often run a qigong club, or something similar.
And correct me if I am wrong, but subclub seems to be the only commercial producer of spiritual subs like Revelation of Spirit, Alchemist and Khan Black, right? If correct, then they got the monopoly and also a very interesting avenue of development, considering that it has probably not been done before, the idea of commiting to a technical spiritual discipline while simultaneously running a relevant sub long-term.
I personally am excited about running a stack like Khan Black+RoS+Love Bomb for a long time to see how it will integrate with the kind of development I am interested in. I am immensely thankful that Fire made Khan Black and that SaintSovereign just happens to be into things like Qigong and has an interest in deeper spiritual matters. I see it as a manifestation that is aligning with my interests.
One of the biggest gripes I have with the New Age movement is that theyāre often really materialistic. They build up all these theories, and in the end, they mainly hope to manifest a bigger car or a more attractive sex partner. Similarly, Iāve been astonished to find that many of the European ritual magicians of the past centuries really focused on love spells or manifesting riches. To find something bigger than that is a blessing.
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Yes, it seems to do that, so be careful.
After three cycles of Khan TB, I noticed that my commitment to avoid PMO became easier, despite the heightened sexuality that comes with Khan. I thought Iād kill it off for good by introducing Khan Black Stage 1 to my stack, but for the last three cycles of running the twin Khans, it has actually gotten more difficult. That surprised me a lot.
I think this may be because in order to heal you sexually, Khan Black has to bring your darkest fantasies to the forefront of your awareness. Itās hard to heal that which you donāt even know about. So your subconscious is showing your waking awareness the sexual fantasies that a part of you is troubled by or that remain unresolved, while you also feel more virile. That easily leads to a relapse, if you donāt possess an iron will.
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Falung Gong & Kuji-in 
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Quick update:
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did four cycles of KB St4 in the beginning of the year
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took a one month long wahsout to think whatās to be done next
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did two cycles of newLB+newSanguine ā worst recon ever; I cannot say that I experienced much recon in the past, the whole KB was smooth sailing, the other subs that I tried too; I did experience overload and some mild recon in form of a bad mood sometimes; but nLB+newSanguine was that strong that I had to cease it; Iāll be trying it again at a later point, in seperate manner so that I can distinguish where this recon was coming from, newLB or newSanguineā¦ it literally gave me nightmares and days of rotten mood
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started with the KB journey again, itās my third cycle of KB St1; on my first run of KB one year ago, I just did two cycles of stages 1 to 3, so now Iām not in a rush anymore, I know how the stages do feel and what I probably can expect, I can take my time as long as I feel itās right; this means Iām not sure if Iāll leave it with three cycles of KB St1 or do more, probably the latterā¦ what I do know, at least I think so, is that I will stay on KB St3 for longer time, Iāll most likely even leave KB St4 because for me it did not do very much (at least that I could tell).
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Iāve done energy practises for about 2 years before iāve found subclub a year ago. Ever since then I decided to just maintain what Iāve built up just doing the practice maybe once a week or once a month sometimes once every two or three months.
Coincidentally, my practice involved generating lot of energy which we can use for our purposes.
KB has made it a lot easier, faster and automatic to Maintain that flow of energy.
I went through all stages of KB for 1 cycle each. The amount of energy I generated was tremendous. So much so that sometimes my body literally gets so hot.
I still feel like the current KB is more than enough for me even though I have some years of active energy practise and more than a decade of meditation experience, imagination training,etc so even if the new version of KB comes, I will stick to the current version.
Even though I now know that this version of KB is nerfed to 30% of the original. Its still as powerful as a nuclear bomb.
And 95% of users cannot handle this
I would suggest all the new users to just use KB and go ahead and build whatever customs you want with it.
No need to wait for the upgrade.
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I restarted KB1 recently and something similar to my exact fantasy happened online. It was so hard to resist, that I lost control. So KB1 did that stuff as one final check and i failed.
Well, just gotta keep levelling up further
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Hello, considering your extensive experience with this sub I am very interested in hearing from you, if you have the time, a short description of what st2 and st3 feels like compared to st1.
I only have experience with St1 for about 3 cycles overall and Iām very curious and quite unsure if I really ever want to run those other stages.
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Totally feel you on that one, my friend 
When the energy starts ramping up, a little pranayama can work wonders to settle things down. iām doing deep breathe work to let the prana flow, and ride the wave instead of getting swept away. Gotta keep that balance, ya know?
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I personally found Spartan Apex, LOTS together with KB3 gives me alot of positivity. Recently I experimented by including an intelligence sub in my stack and it works beautifully. It really creates balance for me. I am now going to add a few more modules to my existing KB3-Apex-LOTS to tweak it alittle more.
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Present 
Anyway there will be a KB upgrade too
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Hi, I donāt think that I can help you much because I donāt feel the subs in general. I can feel the sexual subs like KB St3, PN, WB - they do feel like arousal/excitement in the stomach area while listening. KB ST1 and 2 do not feel like this, they are neutral to me. What happens is rather mental afterwards, not physical, at least not in first place.
So Iām more inclined to see what kind of introspective nudges Iāll get while on a specific sub. But this seems to be rather personal and subjective, so my experience will most likely not be the experience you will get. Just try it and get your own results - hope that helps.
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@AnswerGroup @Forum_Ambassadors How potent is the sexual aura when running Khan ST4 and Khan Black ST4 in a stack? Would that be too overwhelming for women? I remember Saint saying that KB with WB would be like youāre Khal Drogo, so was wondering what Khan and KB would be like. Can anyone whoās ran the 2 together comment?
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May I ask why?
Or, do something creative (music, art, even playing a competitive game). From what I understand, the energy just has to move, as energy always seeks expression (even in physics). Easiest way to discharge sexual energy is through sexual activity, which is probably many find themselves wanting to watch porn again. Since I do Qigong everyday, this is largely mitigated, as the energy continues flowing and moving all day.
@Fire , thoughts?
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Escaping all sexual excitation shouldnāt be the goal at all. If youāre missing all sexual excitation, thatās not actually a good thing - itās very bad. An incredibly important system of yours is malfunctioning.
The goal should be balance. Releasing with a partner is optimal (due to energy exchange and hence your loss being minimized), and it helps to avoid the cycle of excess excitation and then returning to normalcy - youāre burning up your own energy by doing so (just like if you released, since itās the conversion into that final stage of sexual energy before release that gets you), and returning to normalcy over and over again without release might cause your energy to stagnate over time.
So, donāt beat yourself up, try to add calmness to your daily life so that you arenāt excited at every turn (sexual thoughts and rumination included), and release with a partner every now and then.
And of course, a teacher is paramount if you are getting into this. Youāre not going to get very far listening to the no fap crowd.
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Doing breathing techniques is something new to me this time around while listening to Khan Blahk; it has helped substantially in controlling my energy and thoughts about wanting to watch porn. After listening to OG Khan last year, the urge to watch porn subsided really well to the point I rarely ever needed it. I can sometimes recall the feelings of āWhy waste my energy on porn when I can transmute it into something more productive.ā It worked really well for me.
Iām noticing with KB that the art of Fa-Jing is really appealing to me as it incorporates both martial arts and extreme breathing wrapped up into one practice. I know not too many Qigong teachers really put the emphasis on breathing while practicing the movements; I will say it helps a lot in ways you wouldnāt notice until youāre done practicing the movements for sure.
On another note I was looking my human design chart and noticed that the Planet Pluto of Transformation was in my Gate 32, So I asked Chatgpt what does mean?
The answer to my surprise: Pluto in Gate 32 refers to a specific placement in the Human Design System. Gate 32 is known as the Gate of Endurance and it is associated with perseverance, endurance, and consistency in overcoming challenges. Plutoās influence in Gate 32 may bring intense transformation and resilience in the face of adversities or profound changes.
Thats totally Khan Black: The Crucible
Another reason why WB, LoTS, and Apex synergistically complement KB is that you can channel your energy into exercising if Qigong is not your preference. This time, I will refrain from listening to WB to see how it feels without it. While WB did increase my sexual drive and led me to watch more adult content, the motivation for working out was exceptional.
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Went to bed at 11 last night, super tired, ran 3 mins of st1 while on bed. Body kicked me out of sleep at 5 feeling fresh and energized, so i took a cold shower, had coffee and was at the gym at quarter to 6 
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