I am quite surprised this combo is not recommended as bunch of members use this combination apparently(including me).
I though these two are good combo, because Khan uses sexual energy as fuel and KB is about increasing this energy.
But I guess the warning is because of heaviness of this combo and recon.
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Two multistagers at the same time
Also, 1st stage about removing trauma ecc for both so it can be too heavy
But it varies, for example in my case KB stage seems very smooth (Iām on third cycle now)
In any case itās definitely not because they clash or something like that
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I liked my combo of kb1 and dr4, i would have VERY violent and intense sexual dreams like my whole body was vibrating in intensity not just mind but thats how i know subliminal was doing heavy weight work and felt lighter in the morning.
Initially i was like ah dont have problems in this area just 1 cycle then seeing it work yeah could use 2, just to be sure3 and gota go for one together with khan st1 back to back.
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At least in my case, this is not true. Iāve come to the conclusion that prescribing x number of cycles to anybody isnāt useful.
When I began my run with Khan, I thought Iād go by the books and run each stage for one cycle. Then I stopped treating this whole thing like something to be rushed through or checked like items on a checklist. Your personal journey can never be like that and is too dynamic to be reduced to numbers. It is useful to establish a good intuitive connection with yourself so that you can listen to yourself better. Then you simply determine what needs to be done in the moment.
During the first cycle of Khan St1 I felt like I was getting blasted pretty much everyday. I thought I had something good going on so I continued with a second cycle. Things intensified, and now, on the fifth day of the washout from the second cycle, it is clear to me that I struck a gold vein because for the first time, I feel like there is an actual total breakdown happening in myself and that some of my inner blocks/hangups are threatened for the first time, which naturally makes me incredibly uncomfortable. So Iāll continue with a third cycle. When things get good, keep going.
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This.
My intuition told me to run WB even though there was HeO in the stack, and I didnāt really have a pressing romantic goal that needed a sub to support.
It turned out to be one of the biggest internal transformation i have ever gone through. My thought patterns were changing significantly for the better. I wouldnāt have had that experience if i didnāt take the leap of faith and trusted my intuition.
I still think itās good to have a general recommendation though, like how it works for EB and ASBR. if you want to follow it, good. If you want to use more, then youāre free to use your own judgment.
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Iām running Khan Black ST1 in a custom and New Khan ST4 is in another custom.
True. And it is my case as well. For me two cycles of KB1 were very smooth, even refreshing, but I feel Khan TB a lot regarding recon.
Amazing thats exactly what im looking for as well, feels like i did already great preparation with dr and ros and even starting third cycle kb1 now, ready for even deeper breakdown
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I had a long-standing sexual/romantic issue that has caused me never to really embrace my true desires. It began when I first fell in love at the age of 16 and kept playing out, different people, same exact scenario that followed me almost like a curse. Never giving me the chance to get into a relationship with anyone I truly love and vibed with.
So I was always attractive and popular among girls but my interest in them was very picky, every time found someone that just resonated with me, that enticed me Soul just enough to get interested the same thing would happen which is a friend would fall in love with that same girl, and it was always superficial they just wantted her for some shallow thing like sex and because of personal gain. And me being me I would suppress my desire and love because I can feel people deeply and I couldnāt get myself to betray a friend because I nurture and love my friendships. It would also always be with some close friend that I bonded with deeply.
When running St 1 it literally brought me back to every each and one of these repetitive experiences and made me aware of them and I now feel I can break the cycle.
Actually, I already feel released from them. I really believe it was all my own creation there to teach me something. Like some past life karma playing out to teach me a lesson.
I have always felt that our journey here on earth is just a game, a Spiritual journey to learn and grow, gathering more experience and wisdom as we mature and take more important positions in the life cycle.
Now running St 2ā¦
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Sorry mate,
How do you think this was your creation? And what did you learn?
Itās not redundant and there are similarities in the form of being called Khan and heavy sexuality, but itās two different aspects. Khan Black is the energetic, esoteric aspect, and Khan is the being an attractive and sexual man. Khan is also much wider in itās application, touches on social ability, status, dominance and confidence and much more. Khan Black is focused on sexuality and sexual energy.
It is not redundant, it is heavy though and might be tougher run. I like it.
And these subliminals are more complex then that, but this is just a way of answering quick.
You know Carl Jung speaks on the shadow, that part of ourselves that is unconscious and we are not consciously aware of but is the source of all our reactions.
So in the paradigm that everything is our creation is a very empowering and liberating one because knowing that there is a non-partisan law that lives to obey our commands but does not protect us from harming ourselves and others because it does not make a distinction between good and bad. It simply exists to do its job which is to serve life in and around us, we are simply the mediators.
I think there was some channeling Seth speaks in the mid to late 1900s that speaks about this in depth.
If your unconscious mind holds destructive beliefs, ideologies, expectations and programs that are detrimental to ourselves and others we can work on that part, making life beautiful for ourselves and others, and become a light to the world and everyone who comes in contact with you.
I really believe these subliminal programs take all that to the next level as humanity is opening not just a new chapter but starting an entirely new book.
Yeah Seth Speaks I think it was called during that time there was also a big upsurge of consciousness on the planet especially in America with things like the hippie movement and stuff
Seth Speaks, the nature of personal reality by Jane Roberts explains all this stuff
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Ok it was just a question as I was interested to why you would use a spiritual framework for something that seemed grounded in reality such as social interactions. But I get it, and anyway Khan Black/ZP tech is guiding you through this healing, with your personal view of life. Thatās amazing.
St1 in meditation brought me back to the experience that shaped how I feel towards and look at my sexuality and all the following experiences resulting from this.
Right now my entire outlook has changed and those feelings are no longer there, when I converse with a potential partner our interactions are super free and I can see even for them it becomes something that also seems to allow them that same freedom it is quite liberating because I donāt have to deal with their past sexual stuff and they donāt have to with mine. Just unbounded by the pastā¦
I like how you described we create, and that is my same feeling about the world as we
experience it.
And I am sure my life followed patterns I created or took on somewhere, especially around sex. The difficulties Iāve had are almost absurd when I look back. Divine comedy. Iām a decent looking guy who always loved women, yet things wouldnāt work out. 
I put Khan Black ST1 in a custom recently and will keep using it with Khan and a LOT more. I use three tracks. Iāll probably use them all year.
I owned Seth Speaks but only dabbledā¦ Ever read Neville Goddard? He puts it very well.
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It seems that KB1 along with Phoenix is finally healing and dissolving my sexual traumas and hangups around sex. I start to enjoy sex more, have higher libido and I feel more relaxed. It is healing my many years long bad relationship with sex and partial ED, mostly psychologically driven.
But be aware it is my 6th cycle of KB1 or so, first stacked with Phoenix.
Thanks SubClub! 
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That is true dedication!
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Heh, yesā¦honestly, in first place I did 2 cycles, but when I was on KB3 I realized that I need some more healing for sure and then came back to stage 1.
I think I am ready to progress now.
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To new beginnings!
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