Main Disc. Thread - Khan Black: The Crucible (Custom Core Now Available!)

[Fire]

@Athanaxos

I purchased Robert Bruce’s course “Mastering Kundalini & Energy Work” ages ago and I only watched through the first part. He at least seems legit to me, or legit enough - but I’d like a second opinion because what the hell do I know? Do any of you guys have experience from Bruce’s work on the subject?

@SaintSovereign

@Fire is NOT a fan. I’ll let him explain, since I don’t quite understand, but I trust his judgment.

Pretty much this applies:

@Fire

Note the plural - New Age people love to talk about having multiple awakenings like some sort of badge of honor. In fact there is a more or less known New Age author who claims to have risen his Kundalinis over 70 times and attempts to teach others to do the same.

Meanwhile, if you did Yoga properly for multiple years under a teacher, you just need to have it happen once and correctly. And that’s just the beginning of a very, very long road. I’m not even going to go into the viewpoint of other traditions - I’ll just say the view is quite bleak on the multiple raising of the “Kundalinis”.

If you’re having multiple Kundalinis over and over, you’re not raising Kundalini, just pushing energy up through the central channel.

Better to find a real Yoga teacher if you want to dive into the topic of Kundalini - it’s an advanced process that comes from a very specific tradition, yet modern people like to just rip it out of the tradition, remove all the preparation, warnings and methods and then claim its the real deal. It’s not.

Think of it like this… let’s take swimming. Take away the water, the swimming movements and the gear. What do you have left? You’re just doing random movements on the floor. Would you call that swimming?

[GoldenBird]

Thanks, but keep in mind that one of the main points of that post was to help people get a more nuanced understanding of some terms that have been overused by New Age authors. I don’t have a problem with New Age, I just find their cultural misappropriation and usage of exotic sounding terms troubling, and their overuse of terms like Kundalini greatly cheapens the traditions they originally were associated with. If you listen to New Age “experts”, pretty much any unusual feeling in your body suddenly qualifies as an advanced spiritual awakening/kundalini. Throw in “galactic federation” or “transdimensional hyperfusion of energy” or whatever, and it really becomes difficult to take them seriously. It has also tarnished the reputation of these things so that when people genuinely want to explore these traditions in order to improve themselves, they often get a condescending response from those around them who only know of New Age crowds.

Sure, you can maybe find a useful piece of information even in the writings of New Age authors such as Mantak Chia or Robert Bruce, but the next question would be in what kind of context you then evaluate these pieces of information. When you start out, you hardly have any context. Context is what older traditions generally help you with. The advantage of having a good experienced teacher is that they are supposed to gently guide you through the labyrinth that is esoteric development, and to swiftly come to your aid when you experience difficulties that no medical doctor can help you with(energy based sicknesses are no joke and modern medicine will likey diagnose you with some type of atypical migraine and send you to a neurologist for a CT scan. Of course, they won’t find anything, and yet your symptoms will persist and become potentially fatal. I got very close to that myself)

Of course, finding a proper teacher is no trivial matter, especially in these overly materialistic times. You have to trust in the old adage of when the student is ready, the teacher appears. The subs here will definitely help you with aligning your inner beliefs that are related to these kind of manifestations.

[PhasingPhoenix]

Stumble upon this — Masterworks — "designed to accelerate your ability to call forth, cultivate and use energy in whatever way you choose. "
From so above so below.

Was wondering if there is a module version of it, because it sounds awesome, and also how, As Above / So Below and/or Masterworks (that might not exist),
would do in a custom with kb.

[James]

@Fire

New Age people love to talk about having multiple awakenings like some sort of badge of honor.

I’m still trying to figure what the difference is between an awakening and an AHA moment?

[ABC333]

They could actually be two words for the same thing.

I was going to say an awakening is a satori but it’s just, Satori (Japanese: 悟り)is a Japanese Buddhist term for awakening, “comprehension; understanding”. It is derived from the Japanese verb satoru. In the Zen Buddhist tradition, satori refers to a deep experience of kenshō, “seeing into one’s true nature”.

So awakening could be an aha moment of realizing or seeing one’s true nature, or “reality.” Really can’t be described by words if you’re ever graced to experience an awakening. But everybody’s had an aha into something, anything and I think the aha’s are things we can more readily describe and convey with words.

[Athanaxos]

@SaintSovereign

@Fire is NOT a fan. I’ll let him explain, since I don’t quite understand, but I trust his judgment.

Duly noted.

@Fire

New Age author who claims to have risen his Kundalinis over 70 times and attempts to teach others to do the same.

Meanwhile, if you did Yoga properly for multiple years under a teacher, you just need to have it happen once and correctly.

Yeah I’ve been thinking about that. Sometimes it seems like everyone and their aunt has “had a kundalini awakening” if you believe the internets. Especially in the esoteric circles and subcultures… One of the new age gurus in question even mentioned in one of her books that I happened upon that the ‘traditional awakening’ was so rare that she had only encountered 2 people in her 40 years of ‘working the field’. Her selling point was that you could “determine” if you’ve had a kundalini awakening by checking a list with a series of… symptoms… that in general are associated with energy work (or even worse… qi disruption). She went ahead to say that the ‘negative’ symptoms could be fixed by some sort of new-agey higher-self healing. If her selling point had been shadow work and simpler energy work then that would have been fair. Instead, she is selling the idea that everyone can do it (ie, reach Enlightenment with capital E), and then promotes her own books on how to do it… case in point.

Thank God I am no longer a fledgling scholar nor a sucker

@GoldenBird

Sure, you can maybe find a useful piece of information even in the writings of New Age authors such as Mantak Chia or Robert Bruce, but the next question would be in what kind of context you then evaluate these pieces of information. When you start out, you hardly have any context. Context is what older traditions generally help you with. The advantage of having a good experienced teacher is that they are supposed to gently guide you through the labyrinth that is esoteric development, and to swiftly come to your aid when you experience difficulties that no medical doctor can help you with

It’s redundant to say but I want to make clear that I will refrain from any attempts until I find someone who can guide me through it. For me it’s important to be done properly, or not at all.

Thanks for the input, guys.

And lastly, a depiction of what new-age enlightenment looks like:

[ABC333]

ABC333 Khan Black

Day 7 3:30 of KB 4 and 3:30 of new LB. I’ve had some more moments of sensing energy. It’s like subtle, I actually thought in previous times it was when whatever food I ate was hitting the bloodstream or something. But just now I was noticing these like good tingles kind of in my neck top of spine area, and I realized well I haven’t eaten anything yet today or taken any vitamins. So it’s gotta be some sort of energy awareness or sensitivity, in a good way though. By good I mean something that fe…

[KingofClubz]

2 minutes of KB ST2 🤌

Last all day and zero recon for me

Feels better everyday

[SoulFire]

I tried 4min of KB3 out of curiosity and it’s extremely potent!!

Definitely make sure you have run stage 1 and 2 enough before going to stage 3, I felt the fire rising like crazy pushing all hell loose.

I’m gonna stick to stage 1 and 2 a little longer.

[Phoermes]

The description could use an update to prevent confusion from new users since Libertine filed for a name change.

[Sub.Zero]

Was it really me?

@Sub.Zero

I would be great if they published a similar multi-stage program focused on sexuality. SEXUALITY UNCHAINED. They could combine DR with Libertine and Primal Seduction but the main focus would be sexual healing and making you much more connected with your sexual energy.

If so, I’m honored to be KB’s grandpa.

[Tomcat]

Khan Black Prophet!

Khan Black release was predicted by your prophecy!

[RockyHandsome]

Well there are plans to release a version of Khan Black but if I understand correctly it will be more geared towards QiGong specialists and Wing Chun Kungfu guys @bombayduck and @Yazooneh may want to know about this. I think it will be later on this year. Would be nice if they included a chakra cleansing feature.

[Sub.Zero]

Where did you get that idea from?

[ABC333]

Is KB 4 considered to be more healing? I’m asking because in my 2 cycles with KB4 it seems like my stack of KB 4, new LB, new Primal, has really been more healing than anything. And then on the 5 day break it seems like the Primal comes on more.

[Parsifal]

It contains all 3 prior stages, so you get the healing from stage 1 fueled by stage 3 energy, so it would make kinda sense what you experience.

[RockyHandsome]

@Sub.Zero

Where did you get that idea from?

There was a mention that it was going to be geared more towards Qi Gong practitioners etc.

[SaintSovereign]

That was for the as of yet unnamed follow up to KB. The KB upgrade can be used by everyone.

[RagnarLothbrok]

I remember when I used Hero alone my improvement in Muay Thai was faster but when I added KB it was much much faster.

Will the new upgrade be more suited to people who want to use the sexual energy to improve in the physical realm?

[NatureDad]

wait these are two different things?