We have our reasons, which I’m not arguing with anyone over. It was either that, or we don’t release a Stage 4 at all, which I strongly considered.
You’re supposed to run stages 1, 2 and 3 for around 30 days, which would put you RIGHT at the moment that stage 4 is released. The fact that anyone is getting frustrated illustrates to me that we made the right choice, because it’s evident that those individuals were going to jump straight to stage 4, mix it with a bunch of stuff, get bad results and then run here complaining.
You all wouldn’t believe how many times this has happened, then we discover that they’ve been mixing the title they’re complaining about with morphic fields, or YouTube subliminals or advanced energy generation meditations – but they’ll blame our title. It can be nothing else, none of the other stuff they did. It HAS to be our title to blame.
So, no. We know what we’re doing, it may not make sense to you all because you don’t have all the data and understand the behind the scenes work. I do know if I get a bunch of shit about this, we won’t make anymore bold titles like Khan Black.
Run stages 1, 2 and 3. No need for anyone to run stage 4 right now. If this is an issue for anyone, please wait until the stage 4 launch to purchase.
@SaintSovereign On the sales page for other subs you mentioned " your current level of growth ". Can you clarify what that means and how one can gage where they are at?
I am not frustrated. I have no intentions to run this project so I have no skin in the game.
But my point still stands, more advanced users PROBABLY would’ve been fine jumping right into stage 4, which would’ve allowed for more feedback on the forum and possibly shifted beginners from jumping right into it. But it doesn’t matter, all the concerns are for naught because the second stage 4 is open, complete newbs can purchase this subliminal and jump right into stage 4 regardless if you launched it today or 3 months from now. That’s irrefutable.
Every artisinal program has the disclaimer for a reason. This is no different.
This is incorrect. Unless you have more data and information about this title than we do? Do you know what our future plans are? The answer is no – as we haven’t spoken to anyone about this.
Adding that something is “irrefutable” doesn’t actually make it so. Like we said, we have our reasons and that argument, while logical, is lacking the facts that we aren’t going to share. So, everyone – buy it now, or wait until the Stage 4 launch.
Basically means to self-evaluate your growth to determine if a particular title would be good for you. To tie it into this title, there are very few people here that are advanced enough to jump straight into Stage 4. Khan Black is 98% new scripting – no one has ever been exposed to this before, so it’s a bit naive to think that someone who has never worked on their sexual energy before, especially in this manner, could just jump into the last stage, which is 19000 words long.
This is basically what I want to know, 1 loop of stage 1 and I already remember the breathing technique I did on Khan st4 (first version) to have sex for hours goddam! I’m sure I could do it again running stage 3! That would be incredible!
I want to go to stage 3 tho my sexual energy has been low for few months, or maybe stage 2, just play around with it!
I wonder I this cam be use as a replace for sexual mastery?
Does this contain the early version of the upcoming sex mastery x3?
Is there any chance we will see wanted in the black series of subs?
I’ve seen many different iterations of this same energy you bring here over the years.
People with no rhyme or reason starting arguments for the sake of arguments about things that don’t really aid anyone.
These people I used to look at with pity but ignored mostly until the “everything comes to light” thread where I discovered how dangerous individuals like you can be because you essentially cause hardships and argue incessantly over things that get you and others nowhere, and stop production or slow it down, leaving us all sitting there and wishing the owners had free way to continue making awesome stuff
So before your head becomes big like theirs and your “irrefutable” logic actually convinces you that you’re a genius and you’re actually getting something done with this bullshit, I’ll step in and ask
If you have no skin in the game, then why are you doing this? Can you be a difficult human being somewhere else? Where it’ll actually get you somewhere instead of just hindering others, owners, production, and people’s sanity?
I appreciate your feedback but I absolutely won’t stop challenging unexplained ideas especially when it goes against logic. If that’s an issue for you I believe you can mute individual people on this forum. I’d recommend that course of action.
Saint said they have a specific reason as to not dropping Stage 4 even though on a surface it doesn’t make sense, I’ll accept that explanation.
Advanced (subliminal programming) users would go through all the stages carefully introspecting and evaluating their progress. That’s why they’re advanced users in the first place. Unless you meant people who don’t really need KBC since they’re so advanced in cultivating and employing their sexual energies and they just want to see how much further KBC could take them.
Have you even tried running St1 to see what it offers? If not, try it out and you’re going to get a feel what whole KBC is really about.
Very well said, I mentioned in my journal a few hours ago the feeling of warmth that began in my chest during the loop, which was later followed by warmth in my stomach and testicles.
Very interesting stuff, I just hope that this can lead to something more profound than “peepee hard”.
Pretty sure I read somewhere Saint saying Stage 4 is locked so they can gather data from the users running the earlier stages, most likely so they can tweak ST4 to make it perfect.
Sounds exactly like something Saint and Fire would do, they always want to give us their best and make our experience with their products as good as possible.
This has been more than evident over the years with the free titles, constant free upgrades in tech and with this new combo type upgrade they’ve been doing with older titles, advancement in ingenuity at what is frankly a staggering pace lately (has anyone else noticed that subs lately have become exponentially more advanced regarding every aspect of their creation? like wasn’t ZP introduced a year ago? fucking insane)
Not to mention these dudes don’t want us treating them like Gods on the forum when they regularly do shit that proves they are next level in their own personal reality creation (“Ye are gods” like Jesus said, we have the POWER and those with eyes to see already know these boys are making good use of what they’ve got). They are seriously just humble people, and that by itself forgetting all the other amazing shit they’ve done with subliminal tech, makes me trust them.
Depends on the individual. Some might be able to handle all that extra energy while in “monk mode”, some will not.
It will but only energetically and by overcoming your sexual limitations.
Yes, this program is extremely versatile - if you know how to use it. Not everyone will be able to control the sexual energy and utilize it properly, at the very least not right away.
No need for Khan specifically, but it is recommended to have some experience with our titles as it is an artisanal title after all.
Yes, but first try running each by themselves.
Yes. It is quite versatile, as long as you allow yourself time to learn how to direct the energy.
It is safe.
Yes, but only if you use it through the sexual energy route - otherwise, if you aren’t interested in sexual energy development, you might as well just run Khan.
Some, as Khan also deals with sexual energy but it is not its only focus. It’d be best to start from ST1 with Khan Black, but you might find it is smoother for you than others.
There are many ways to call the energetic system of the body, all dependent on the spiritual tradition. Chakras are simply one term from one tradition.
Yes, of course.
I’d say yes, give it a bit of a run to prepare your system. No need to go for long in such a case, a month and move on - unless you end up finding out you had a lot of undiscovered limits (which is quite possible).
I’d give it a run by itself first for at least a week, see how you respond and whether you can handle more in your stack.
Density or even better, difficulty, depends on your sexual and energetic state. You can run it in a stack for sure, it is quite versatile, but we recommend running it by itself first.
It’s highly versatile, but the greatest capabilities of The Crucible are really for those who have an interest in spirituality or sexuality (or preferably, both).
Either way, even if you simply take note of your sexual state during the day and regulate it while running Khan Black, you’ll massively benefit by the sheer power that will be behind every action you do.
However, @Lion did give an excellent answer already.
Paragon sounds like the answer here, as of course contacting a proper medical professional.
Stick to one of them. They can be used together in theory, but it’s something I’d recommend only to experienced users.
No, KB can not replace Khan. KB is solely focused on sexual energy, Khan has a much wider impact.
Note, be very mindful of the million dollar technique.
Yes, however, it is about controlling sexual energy - if you aren’t yet proficient in doing so, you might simply waste it.
While not a question, I’d like to point out this is not a subliminal strictly for men - women can use it as well. However, it is also harder to find good material from the female perspective, and usually the focus has been on the men’s side as it is more obvious the way we men waste our sexual energies. Ultimately however, women can most definitely benefit from The Crucible.
Potentially, but give it a bit to see how you react.
Yes, however you are in still in control - your decision and intention matters.
It has no direct scripting improving sexual performance, as (even though on first glance it might seem paradoxical) that is not it’s goal. The goal is sexual transmutation and transformation, not sexual performance. It is a different… “type” of sex.
Yes.
Potentially, but this is dependent on your energetic and sexual development, as well as what techniques or spiritual tradition you are utilizing.
“Horniness”, when coursing through the body, is also lifeforce.
Not quite sure about the meaning of this question, but yes, it will definitely be a massive help in developing your sexuality.
Completely different titles, but can work nicely together IF the individual can handle the toughness of both programs. For more experienced users who have run both.
Yes, although social use is possible for EB, for example complete focus on a skill that has impact on social skills can help your social goals long term. @SaintSovereign elaborated further on this question already.
Sure, I’d add a run of Emperor, Khan, Alchemist or Dragon Reborn as all being good foundations.
Emperor Black was a special case - Khan Black was created with no need for additional base.
Yes.
Better? I’d say different, but yes it can be used for romance.
Research into sexual techniques of spiritual development is definitely encouraged.
What is the difference between arousal and lust?
Arousal is an excitation of your system, energy rushing through.
Lust is taking that energy and fueling it into sexual activity.
Focus and calm comes from utilizing this energy for something more, from developing control and developing your sexual and energy systems.
It happens as a consequence of energetic and sexual development.
ST1 of Crucible.
No, it’s better to use Sexual Mastery, unless it’s for techniques related to developing your sexual energy.
Sure, the sexual energy and the energetic development is quite helpful.
