Main Disc. Thread - HERO Origins: Sage and a Blade (Now Available! Q Core for Customs Available!)

[Viktor]

@Viktor

A while ago I wrote “HeO’s productivity is indirect”.

Scratch that, HeO felt so natural back then that I didn’t notice how direct it was until I used it again recently. It was just so smooth that I took it for granted and thought HeO was indirect.
Even daily meditation, frequent journaling, deep introspections etc did not help to make me aware.

This is why a break is important.

Running it straight for 12 cycles wasn’t the right move and I should have listened to my intuition back then to stop it for a month or more.

Btw I misjudged something about HeO back then.
If anyone read that, here’s the correction.

[bujin]

@Viktor

I gave it a long run.
While I didn’t become a sword wielding hero, the act of practising itself helped me fix, improve & figure out other things in my life. It’s the “master 1 thing to master others” aspect of HeO working.

Was this actually the one thing you chose to focus on, or did you just pick it up out of interest?

For me it needs to be something I already do that I want to get much better at, so I’ll be focusing on Qi Gong and Tai Chi practices.

I have a proposed custom for this, but I’m kinda torn about whether to include Singularity now or later.

custom

HERO Origins Core

New Result Enhancing Experience Core

Synergy: Energetic Transcendence

Synergy: Harmonic Conflux

Synergy: Semper Praesens

Deep State

Equilibrium

Formless Clarity

Master’s Coordination

Subconscious Flow

[Viktor]

@bujin

Was this actually the one thing you chose to focus on, or did you just pick it up out of interest?

I chose my work to master, sword training is just something I do on the side for fun.
I only did the same 1 set of movements every day for almost a year back then. If I had taken it more seriously I’d have explored & invested more into it.

@bujin

For me it needs to be something I already do that I want to get much better at, so I’ll be focusing on Qi Gong and Tai Chi practices.

I’m doing qi gong too now, although not formally, just following videos from youtube and familiarizing myself with the exercise.

Tai chi seems like it’d fit HeO & AS well. I might get into it after I understand more about both qi gong and swordsmanship.

@bujin

I have a proposed custom for this, but I’m kinda torn about whether to include Singularity now or later.

HeO is a long term sub, why not add AS now? you’ll stick with the sub for a long while anyway.
The custom might take longer since it’s heavier, but that’s not a concern in the long run.

HeO & AS should complement each other.
AS helps with internalizing HeO’s virtues, HeO helps with mastering your energetic exercises.

But I wonder why you chose NREE instead of NSKE, according to your goals & the modules you selected, shouldn’t NSKE fit the custom better?

[bujin]

@Viktor

HeO is a long term sub, why not add AS now? you’ll stick with the sub for a long while anyway.
The custom might take longer since it’s heavier, but that’s not a concern in the long run.

That was my thinking too.

Basically I’d remove Synergy: Energetic Transcendence and replace it with Singularity.

alternative custom

HERO Origins Core

Alchemist: Singularity Core

New Result Enhancing Experience Core

Synergy: Harmonic Conflux

Synergy: Semper Praesens

Deep State

Equilibrium

Formless Clarity

Master’s Coordination

Subconscious Flow

@Viktor

But I wonder why you chose NREE instead of NSKE, according to your goals & the modules you selected, shouldn’t NSKE fit the custom better?

That’s the other NSE option I’m considering, but some of those potential cores/modules (Singularity, Energetic Transcendence, Deep State, Formless Clarity, Harmonic Conflux, Semper Praesens) aren’t really skills, they’re more about entering and enhancing the optimal state for practice, so I figured NREE would be able to tie everything together better.

The core of the New Result Enhancing Experience (NREE) is meticulously designed to amplify and accelerate the effectiveness of all subliminal results, aligning every aspect of your transformation with your desired outcomes

So a greater focus on the desired outcome over just the physical skill improvements. Qi Gong especially is as much about the mental state and the breathing as it is about the sequence of movements.

Since @Fire is a qualified Qi Gong instructor, I’m hoping he’ll see this and give a recommendation.

[SaintSovereign]

@bujin

I’d stick with a single core at first, but I’ve been thinking a lot about how this would combine with either Singularity and/or CWON later on. Seems to me that could be a beautiful combination.

You are going to love stacking this with the new CWON. Singularity + CWON + Hero: Origins? What a journey.

[bujin]

@SaintSovereign

You are going to love stacking this with the new CWON. Singularity + CWON + Hero: Origins? What a journey.

Any hints about the new CWON in how it differs from the current? Personally I’m more interested in the spiritual and nature-based part of it, and less in the leadership aspects, but when I ran the original it was a beautiful experience.

[HeroicDragon]

With this though, what would one be mastering? A:S offers a lot, a whole lot but is a skill required to work with this?

[Iceman]

I was thinking about this stack yesterday, in addition to kbst4+sanguine+Aoh, was going to say Saint what would it be like if you made a sub with all 6 from scratch be like

[SaintSovereign]

@bujin

Any hints about the new CWON in how it differs from the current? Personally I’m more interested in the spiritual and nature-based part of it, and less in the leadership aspects, but when I ran the original it was a beautiful experience.

It’s based upon the exoteric leadership principles of Tao Te Ching, as well as an upgrade of the current spiritual and nature focus. All the parts that you enjoy will be amplified and more profound.

I will be running it myself to assist my Qigong practice.

[SaintSovereign]

@HeroicDragon

With this though, what would one be mastering? A:S offers a lot, a whole lot but is a skill required to work with this?

It assists with all “skills.” For example, even if you’re working on something like being more joyful in life, it will help with that. Anything you’re working on is a skill, even if it’s not something that’s tangible.

Someone else here was using it for Muay Thai with great results. Others used it for business mastery. The HERO line is all about mastery and perfection.

[HeroicDragon]

That moment you want a 4 core custom… I know it’s not recommended, doesn’t mean i don’t want it…

[Parsifal]

@SaintSovereign

All the parts that you enjoy will be amplified and more profound.

A general question about updates on titles.
Since they are growing (in script length?), does that mean, seeing results with specific objectives will take longer to manifest, since our subconscious has more script to work on?
Or is focus on the objectives we want the most, aka conscious guidance, enough to get these results even faster?

[HeroicDragon]

How soon cause that’ll be in a custom.

[SaintSovereign]

@Parsifal

Since they are growing (in script length?), does that mean, seeing results with specific objectives will take longer to manifest, since our subconscious has more script to work on?

They’re not growing in script length. When we update a title, we are literally rewriting them from scratch, but including the same concepts and ideas while also adding new features. It’s a difficult balance game, but we’ve completely refined the process.

[HeroicDragon]

So instead of Ascended Mogul with UWX or IG, we would recommend H:O?

[emperor_obewan]

That sounds amazing. CWON is already under-rated.

CWON + H: O + Khan Black seems like it would be the perfect combo to use to begin to approach Yi Jin Jing / Xi Sui Jing practice. KB for the stimulation of Jing, H: O for staying disciplined with the practice and pushing it further, CWON for the unity consciousness and mental cleansing.

[RockyHandsome]

How does Hero stack with WB, Wanted and other alpha sex based subs. I might be wrong but didnt Saint say that there might be a conflict as Hero is based on honour and being true to everyone following the 7 laws of bushido etc.

How do you find the physical shifting in comparison to LOTS and Spartan Apex ?

[Viktor]

@RockyHandsome

How does Hero stack with WB

I did this.
In my case, they don’t clash as my moral values don’t restrict me from following WB’s objectives.
If anything, they worked well together. Covering each other and combining to enhance their effects.

But the more I ponder about it, the more I understand what saint meant by both going their completely separate ways. Stacking both of them is kitchen-sink-ish. You gotta prepare to take action for both HeO and WB. They’ll pull you in different directions. If you think you can spend time on both, then you might be able to give it a try.

Adding Alchemist: Singularity is also a good idea. The sub is all about uniting opposites after all.

---

Edit:

What I wrote about their synergy back then:

@Viktor

they intermingle with each other. Like WB manifesting “situations” that helped with HeO’s goal of mastery, then the act of pursuing mastery itself helped with WB’s goals and so on.

I don’t feel like they compromise each other’s results, if anything, they are helping each other instead.

I also wrote in my journal about how they adapt with each other in my mind

@Viktor

The unexpected synergy between HeO & WB

I thought these two were going to clash. But my subconscious assured me that they would blend just fine.

Every time i thought about it, my mind immediately gave logical cues & imageries to assure me that they would run together just fine. It also showed me how the subs could support each other. Imagine a more mysterious version musashi or a righteous wingliss. Imagine how the spins can enhance each other in their own unique ways.

It’s as if my mind was telling me that it has found a way to reconcile with HeO & WB being in the same stack in the first place. Thinking about how it would not blend is worrying over nothing.

All i have to do is to be open minded and listen.

[RockyHandsome]

Thanks @Viktor i can tell you have grown as a man in more ways then one.

[RockyHandsome]

@SaintSovereign

And everyone’s missing the part about development of heightened reflexes, abilities, “super” strength, lol

You for real @SaintSovereign or joking ?