This.
Good post all around. I’m very exhausted and having a hard time explaining anything right now.
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We have some interesting responses in the thread to the virtue scripting. So The virtue scripting doesn’t force you to do anything. My understanding is its like a wise mentor whispering in your ear saying things like
You’re better than that you know it
You could take this option and it might change you
You could walk into this combat situation to uphold your honour or you can also choose to walk away
Ultimately at the end of the day you yield the blade. You decide what path to take “Not today I choose to walk away”.
As @emperor_obewan as mentioned an individual might act on You could take this option and it might change you and in effect it can lead to growth.
Continue to do full loops no more recon or mental fatigue. The unbreakable confidence and mental awareness/focus this gives is someting I would love to see in StarkOG as I will eventually go back to it after 2-3 cycles of hero. There again if a new hero product comes out i might go down that path will see.
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@SaintSovereign, can you comment this more? How does this script relate to true “free will” of the user; the idea that morality is, usually, regulated by shame, guilt, fear and the idea that morality is relative. How the “mild morality scripting” is implemented? I’m not asking about trade secrets but about implementation and “true free will” transparency.
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We’ve talked about this plenty of times here that every title has care scripting to prevent abuse of self and others, and every title’s scripting is highly positive with a slight humanitarian angle. As you can see, everyone is still getting their desired results.
I’m not sure what else to say, other than the fact that we’ve discussed this over numerous situations and second, we won’t be changing that ethos under any circumstances.
I’m not sure why now, after years of Implementing the free will scripting, which is listed in the transparency report at the top of the copy in most titles that this is becoming an issue.
But it’s non-negotiable. Our products will not be used for users to overtly harm others or terrorize the public.
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Its good to know.
It’s all right here:
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Something tells me that you the only one subliminal producer who actually cares about this things.
And it seems the reason why I feel safe running your products.
Thank you!
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Aside from what Saint mentioned, I can’t help but mention again the benefits of virtue and morality. You can really look at morality and virtue not from a point of view of “some human or made up god told me to do it”, but from an “it makes good energetic and logical sense” perspective, or even from a game theory perspective.
If you are running subliminals, you probably on some level understand that our thoughts have power. And on a deeper level, thoughts are energy like emotions are, causing fluctuations in our lived conscious experience both internally and externally. Once you can start seeing things from a less trapped-in-the-matrix sense of being, virtue and morality, and even brahmacharya (and when to break that rule) start to make a lot of sense.
That doesn’t mean you necessarily cease to defend yourself or hit back when you are hit. It just means the goal is to seek to be connected to the flow of all life, to be sustained by the fountainhead, and as a result morality naturally happens. But until you get to that point, the principles that have existed throughout our history are there as a guideline.
That’s my perspective anyway, as someone who’s run HeO for a good few cycles and meditated about this shit way too much 
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Not to mention, the free will and care scripting has been in the titles for YEARS now. There have been no reports — not a single one that suddenly people are allowing themselves to be abused, or they can’t control their own sense of morality.
Forgive me for coming across so annoyed, but the sheer strangeness of coming to the discussion of a title where the major selling point of the title is virtue led mastery, a title essentially named “The Origins of a Hero: A Sage (re: virtue led wisdom) with a Blade,” and then inventing an issue where there was none is beyond odd to me.
@RockyHandsome literally had one day of recon and questioned the virtue scripting, asked if there could be a mastery title without it, then came back and clarified what he was really feeling and suddenly here’s this weirdness starting up.
If any of you don’t want to be exposed to virtue scripting, don’t run HERO. There’s tons of hedonistic titles, titles with fame scripting, hell — we’ve got a title with eggplants in the cover, a title just for getting some head, everything customers have asked for.
… why come to the virtue sub to complain about virtue?
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I don’t know to whom you were answering @SaintSovereign but my initial post was about you said:
Every title at Subliminal Club contains some form of mild morality scripting , and all the titles have the aim of uplifting humanity on some level.
“Mild morality scripting” is what made me asking because as someone working with systemic issues, conscience and the definition of good and bad, I was interested how this scripting is implemented.
In some cultures beheading their enemies is considered “moral”. We also have a “double standards” phenomena.
So thats was my question initially.
Or you answered to somebody else who runs Hero?… because I’m not running it.
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Not to you specifically, this topic is flaring up in this particular thread and others.
Understood.
To answer this question, it’s the nature of the scripting itself. Outside of the care scripting, there’s no overt objective morality scripting unless noted in the description. So titles like DRG, Chosen, Hero — those all contain virtuous scripting. In the other titles, there’s a slight bend to humanitarianism, like ASBR — creating products that could make you rich and famous while also uplifting humanity.
It is not forced, however, and “uplifting humanity” is left for subjective analysis. By this we mean you choose how that is achieved or if you’d even want to listen to that suggestion.
But all morality style scripting is subjective out of respect to the fact that we have a global customer base, and as such, cultural differences must be respected.
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Great! Thats EXACTLY I was asking for. Thanks!
Lmao I dont know what scripting you put into this, but I have way better form when throwing punches and it packed a lot of power, like a lot of power, probably knock someone out kind of power. I went, " Did I really just throw this punch?"
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I am getting into back into boxing next week so I am looking forward to similar progress.
@WinglissStark out of curiosity did you ever run spartan and if so did you notice similar results or dramatically different.
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I was listening to this podcast episode and it seemed to me to be kind of a HERO theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyfUysrNaco
Haven’t run spartan yet
Dont like that influencer there is something very shady about him so I stopped listening after a couple of minutes
Yea, I guess he’s a new podcaster it sounds like. Naval is a guy who rarely does podcasts they say. His episodes from JRE and Tim Ferris are highly regarded.