Main Disc. Thread - Genesis ZP

That aura is quite something of libertine and love.bomb

The first day I used it, ended up in the opticians and had 3 ladies all serving me, the optician broke my specs so ended up getting new frames for free,

After the sub gives a good feeling

But then in the next cycle It gives a lost feeling, kind of like the pic in the eye of storm with the boat and it makes me think where the heck am I

Still ongoing

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I didn’t see this in support articles, but is there a minimum amount of time someone should stick to a cycle before deciding a sub doesn’t fit? We talk a lot about sub hopping on this forum, but not a lot about diminishing returns and when to cut ties with a subliminal.

Another thought from my perspective of running Genesis. I really like this title because it’s so open ended. Whenever I ran a major title with a more straightforward goal or archetype there was always that “hmmmm do I really want this?” sort of feeling. Is it possible some subconscious minds are more comfortable with open ended goals of their own creation vs super direct ones?

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Took a 3-day mini-washout, then back to my stack which includes Genesis.

Once again, heightened dream activity and dream recall.

Dream was really absorptive, immersive, meaningful, engaging.

My mind responds and reacts actively to this program.

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I can see it much more clearly on hard hitting titles like EB, for example. My baseline changes really fast and it feels so natural. At the same time the feel of the results intensity subsides and that makes me think that the program is affecting me much less intense or even that I’m experiencing the results no more. Only thorough introspection, observation and the memory (or a record) of how I used to be only a couple of days/weeks before can tell me that my subjective perspective on my progress is deceptive. It may be that self-deception is just a part of the process or a mechanism protecting us from a real mind-blow since those changes are just incredible.

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Genesis in the midst of the third cycle.

This sub is simply a must have and should not be missing in any stack. At least I have reacted very positively to Genesis and have already been able to record a number of positive results in my private and professional life since its launch.

With Genesis I have the feeling that it is a force that slowly but surely pushes you in the right direction. Not fast and not rushed but slow and manageable and on a broad front.

I feel that with genesis it really depends on listening to it constantly over a longer period of time to get all the benefits. It’s hard to describe but it feels like the engine of a ship pushing you forward and other subs in the stack are like navigating exactly where to go.
But that’s really what Genesis is all about, making progress across the board.
Adding DR:LD to be the icebreaker.

As a driving force, genesis is ideal for me atm and I will also leave genesis in the stack in the next cycle.
What would a ship be without an engine on the high seas? Lost…:wink:

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@bombayduck : Emphasis on slowly.

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What are you stacking this with?

Atm Wanted and EB. But i will switch Wanted to DR:LD.

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Right now, I’m stacking it with RoM and Sanguine: The Elixir (with will drop after this cycle is finish).
Next two cycles will be Genesis + RoM to let them integrate before I add Limit Destroyer to the mix.

I’m barely in the middle of the first cycle so there is not much to say yet.

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That sounds good. I’m curious to see how you will evaluate genesis after a while.
The results are always very subjective.

I will also add SE to the stack after my EB phase. Genesis DR:LD and SE is my idea of an ideal stack for me at the moment. I already have experience with SE and it has done me a lot of good. Let’s see how the synergy is in such a stack.

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Results won’t be subjective for me. I already know what my path and purpose are. I just wasn’t working that for a number of reasons. What I expect from this sub is not so much discovering my purpose as it is gaining the inner drive and building the momentum to manifest the people and the resources that will help me achieve that goal. I have a major milestone set for next summer. How successful I am at achieving that milestone and what happens between now and then is my measuring stick for the effectiveness of this sub. It looks like I’m going to be running this sub for the next 12 months (which the type of things I like anyway :muscle:).

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I have experienced this in sorts. I’ve done about 1.5 cycles up to this point and I am someone who normally gets pretty big results fast. I also normally have tight and concise stacks with focus goals.

Not to say I haven’t gotten results, but I would say a lot of things have been put on maintence mode. On the positive side I’ve been pretty productive, had a lot of great experiences, and put a lot of thought into what I want to do, however I don’t feel I have that same star power currently. Just kind of feeling ordinary and thinking in smaller terms, however much more realistic terms which at the time i believe is what I need to focus on.

With that being said I don’t think it was a waste of time by any means, I think I did accomplish some healing; maintained a lot of areas in my life that I need to maintain and actually improved my ability to manage my finances which was huge for me. Also during those last couple cycles I believe that’s what I needed as I’m running along side Khan Black, just finishing up stage 2, but now it’s time to kick it in to gear here. I feel I do have a stronger resonance with alpha/wealth titles and that is really what I enjoy in life.

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Don’t patronise me.

Yup, basically the same way I’ve felt so far. I’ve ran countless titles and have had extremely consistent trajectories when it comes to initial results, recon, bloom and deep growth. The only title I’ve ran so far that hasn’t executed in that way is Genesis.

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Not my intention, bro!

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My inuition is it’s just such a broad sub and covers so many different topics. I experience the same issue when I have a unfocused stack, good at a lot, but master of none.

I think for those big results in any area having an intense focus is the way to go. Perhaps if my focus was just on finding my purpose, etc I may have had better results.

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I wanted to ditch Genesis middle of first cycle and then a close friend said “man that title is doing so well for you” and began to list the insane changes I went through internally and how I’m manifesting it to the outside and then I realized Genesis is the best sub I used so far.

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You were not recognizing the insane results that were there after only half cycle?

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Thats the power of zp man. You dont recognize the changes because it feels so natural, and that can cause doubts about the sub working. But only ones you think about how you were before you used the sub (by reading old journal entries, listening to friends ro whatever) you start realising how much you changed.

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Sometime I’ve been listen to a subliminal and either I don’t get any dramatically noticeable results, or the results that I think should be happening are not.

Such as on Khan, I didn’t get any of those polarizing effects on people. In fact after awhile, I just gave up on Khan because I didn’t really know what it was doing. I went with Stark instead.

When running Blue Skies during the testing phase, I didn’t really notice much. No reconciliation. The clouds didn’t split majestically to reveal a choir of angels singing glory to all that is good. I just seemed to become more of who I was already becoming.

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Genesis has dramatically cleaned up my life, both socially and financially.

I’ve been losin’ friends and findin’ peace. But honestly that sound like a fair trade to me

…describes it perfectly!

Honestly, I love everything about it besides the purpose finding scripting. Just like a healing title it constantly keeps nagging me which medical speciality I want to pursue. A decision I can only truly decide in 2 years when I get that practical knowledge… might be only recon but this will probably be the reason why I switch back to Khan.

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