Main Disc. Thread - Genesis ZP

[Fractal_Explorer]

@SaintSovereign You had mentioned this here

Disruptive reconciliation even with 15s microloops

With an alpha title like Ascension, you HAVE to take action to avoid recon. Action on Ascension is going to the gym regularly (builds confidence, expends excess energy), working on something you want to develop – and with this, it can be pretty much anything, even doing something like consistently aim training for a first person shooter – working on a business, going out and being social. The purpose is to affirm the changes you’re trying to produce through action. If you can’t take consisten…

I’m just wondering where on the scale Genesis falls. I know there’s a drive for action, but also a component of finding your path in life. I’m kinda stuck right now because I don’t know the way forward, but at the same time I’m getting that inner push for action. And I think there’s a combined frustration of needing to do something but not knowing what on a bigger scale of my life. Trying to take small steps to get there, but it definitely eats away in the back of my head at times.

[Jouissance]

that’s a very long time. any summaries of a year on Genesis? I personally love it, in small doses. What has a year been like?

[Malkuth]

As I see things, I am still smack dab in the middle of my Genesis journey and I’m not planning to remove it anytime soon.

Genesis speaks to some of my main personal limitations, obstacles, and weak points. I need a LOT of support and help in those areas. Essentially the area of WILL: translating thought into (appropriate) action.

On the external level, this Will requires determination and enthusiasm. On the internal level, it actually requires flexibility of View. Framing things in the right ways for you to thrive; even if that’s different from your habitual assumptions or patterns. Flexibility.

I need a lot of support in those areas, and so Genesis is the right multivitamin for me.

Even with it, I’m moving forward fairly slowly and gradually; but, I am moving forward.

I’m a little bit of an odd and unique bean.

That’s okay. It turns out that many people are.

But popular, conventional, or common narratives and views often have not worked very well for me.

On the other hand, I have not always been very good at just ignoring all of those narratives and views and standing up for whatever is right for me. Intellectually, I’ve done that all the time. But interpersonally and in the world, I’ve found it difficult.

Because that’s my situation, Genesis makes sense for me as a core program or a core Program Module in my custom.

And so there it is.

[James]

A book I came across yesterday.

Surrounded by Setbacks: Turning Obstacles into Success (When Everything Goes to Hell) [The Surrounded by Idiots Series] Amazon.com

[WinglissStark]

Shadow work requires courage and a mindset of curiosity to face your shadow. Found both the words on the sales page. Hence, this is probably the best subliminal for shadow work. Am I right @Answergroup ?

[IRON]

On Genesis have you found yourself abandoning certain things you thought you liked but realized you don’t care about as much now? Did it change your direction of what you pursue more in life?

[James]

That happens to me anytime I run DRR. I see it as a process of figuring out what’s truly important to a person as opposed to thinking or feeling obligated to care about shit you don’t really give a flying fuck about.

I feel like this is where the healing titles but specifically DRR really shine. When you have spent your entire life apologizing for shit that isn’t yours to begin with its so fucking mentality and emotionally draining

[MechaShaman]

I personally wound Khan to be amazing for shadowwork. But my biggest shadow lies in the area of masculinity, power and sexuality

[James]

Can you elaborate please?

[MechaShaman]

I see shadowwork of tackeling and uncovering the parts deeply repressed in my subconcious. For me personally these are the biggest shadows:
-) me as a sexual being. My sexual desires that I used to see as impure because of christian conditioning.
-) masculinity in a way of going for what I want. Taking the responsibility of asserting myself and giving my own inner voice more weight than what comes from the outside and from deeply ingrained believes from my childhood…the inner critic and the voices ingrained by my parents
-) embracing my power and having trust in it that I can wield it and use it responsible.

I feel that those aspects are all in Khan. I have to add though that all lf this was wonderfully manifested out of an intense “twin flame” relationship I had at that time. I sadly lost contact to some of those parts again. But I trust that those are there and come out when the situation allows it…like at the BDSM retreat I recently attended to.

Reading through DRR and DRG again though showed me that those programs will make it to my stack at some point!

[James]

I think a lot of men feel the way you do
I often wish SubClub existed when I was in my early twenties or earlier

[Starman]

Thank you for this post, I relate with it so much. I might have to consider Khan.

[anon1637736]

Can someone help me decide?
I want to have more success with women and sometimes attraction titles don’t work for me

I think SSX is really good and can help me I think I need to buy it because it will help me develop myself and my abilities through manifestations!

I had success with nectar title but it’s not alpha so my confidence didn’t go up…
I had sex with one girl but not very attractive.

I think Nectar is nice but I need something stronger but not too strong maybe like PS or WB (even though I have these titles I think they are too strong and probably need some fundamental titles first.)

So I thought about SSX + Primal
And maybe need to add something?

I have KB and on the second stg but don’t see much from it

Maybe to add genesis? Or Ascension?

Thanks

[Risky]

Primal is a good choice. Then take action. Here you can find some suggestions: https://www.subliminalclub.com/day-7-the-processing-queue-and-reconciliation/

[Realitysmith]

I think Primal + Ascension + SSX (optional) could be good. And you can run WB before Wanted, but it’s generally recommended to run other seduction/status/confidence titles first as others have said.

[Jouissance]

@SaintSovereign

I think it’d be a fantastic stack. Just don’t be surprised if you find yourself pursuing something you never expected, loving every minute of it and making tons of money from it.

I’m at a stage where I really know what my “purpose” is, pursuing something I never expected, mainly thanks to RoM, although I have listened to Genesis here and there.

However, despite my passion around it, I find it very difficult, as it’s a collection of entirely “new” experiences for me, and Im sruggling to apply myself towards the new path.

What would help me pursue it with more vigor? Would Genesis reintroduced in the stack help with action taking around purpose? Or would something else work better? I have a daredevil/mogul custom too that could work. Please advise

[Jouissance]

@anon1637736

had success with nectar title but it’s not alpha so my confidence didn’t go up…
I had sex with one girl but not very attractive.

I think Nectar is nice but I need something stronger but not too strong maybe like PS or WB (even though I have these titles I think they are too strong and probably need some fundamental titles first.)

Wait what…?

Nectar is Uber strong as you experienced. You had sex with a girl that wasn’t your type but nectar did the job of sparking attraction. If you had turned that opportunity down, it would have been a signal to your mind to pursue and accept higher quality women. It would have listened to that request, but you didn’t make it… you slept with someone you weren’t attracted to.

That’s a LEARNING lesson.

In fact, that’s a confidence-boosting result. You’re reflecting on how your confidence led to that interaction… instead of sub switching try continuing to listen to nectar and implementing the lessons you learned. Your confidence will grow as a result

@AnswerGroup am I off here or does it sound more or less right?

[Malkuth]

@Jouissance

However, despite my passion around it, I find it very difficult, as it’s a collection of entirely “new” experiences for me, and Im sruggling to apply myself towards the new path.

Once the purpose is clearer, one approach that makes sense is to add the program(s) that are most directly relevant to that specific purpose, whatever it happens to be.

[anon1637736]

Let me explain,
I do approach women sometimes.

Attractive women are harder to approach and to date
I used to have much more success with them few years ago using affirmations and mind exercises.

I’ve approached an unattractive girl because I saw her from the back and from far, I thought she was attractive but once talking to her I saw she wasn’t…

RotNW made me visualize her doing some sexy things to me while talking and I got triggered… Wanting to make it a reality.

It didn’t attract women, it made me visualize girls doing Nectar’s script it started to happen even with unattractive clients of mine.

I visualized the effects but I didn’t see any effects from these women…

The average looking girl I’ve approached did play along when I started to escalate things.
But that’s nothing big because it’s the type of girls who will date anyone because she doesn’t have many opportunities.

My confidence and ability to handle different situations didn’t go up. That’s why I said I need something a bit alpha or confidence building.

I’ve started with Primal yesterday.
I will mix it if needed with another title once I understand how I react to it and if something is missing.

RotNW could be it, visualizing women doing naughty things to me while talking to them could be beneficial but it did catch me off guard and without much benefits with higher quality women.

[Goldfinger]

Genesis still remains a gem. The creators didn’t lie when they implied that it builds the foundation that sets you on a superb subliminal journey.

@Goldfinger

I’ve observed three ways I use to consciously aid the reconciliation process. I didn’t study or reason to develop them. The practices naturally happened, and, have become more frequent now. I can just observe and understand them a little more better.

Mindful Physical Engagement

The true takeaway here is tapping into the physical body to balance the inner world.

Engaging physical activities that give the opportunity to slow down and be mindful. If you find yourself rushing to get this done, that in itself could be avoidance. Consciously make an effort to sit in it, to be there, engaging the activity.

And no, I’m not saying to do this in physical work that requires focus and performance. The type I’m talking of are things like house chores, exercise or even taking a bath. I think qigong also applies this medium.

This engages the body and coupled with the mindfulness generated, the mind receives more room to operate/introspect and it gets easier to resolve the recon. Don’t be surprised if you get absorbed, then later realize your body has been moving on autopilot for some time

I suspect this could be a reason why “shower thoughts” are a thing. And I’m 100% sure there’s an energetic aspect to it, but I can’t explain yet.

I’ve been applying this unconsciously since as far back as 2018, but since I used Genesis+DR:LD, this practically became a habit.

Creative Expression

Writing, making music, art etc. I know this used to be one of Saint’s preferred modes, before qigong slapped the shit out of it .

This attempts to captures the essence of the internal world and then externalize it in the external world. The act alone improves self understanding on a fundamental level (as that is required to be able to externalize with depth), which is usually enough to process most of the recon.

With the added benefit of being able to observe/dissect elements of the expressed, which can then be mirrored back inside to better understand what truly needs your attention. It has an extra layer of expressing the creator within. Plus another layer of appreciation, as you have created something truly beautiful.

This also, started becoming a habit on my first two-month run of Genesis+DR:LD.

Singing & Dancing

Singing & dancing is a combination of externalizing the inner world coupled with the somatic component of processing.

I’ve observed that for this, the music must fit your mood, else it becomes trying to use music to force a state shift, I.e attempting to avoid facing yourself.

This serves as a kind of “shock therapy” both to the inner world and to the body. Emotional body is highly engaged, the body is engaged, your “voice” is proclaimed, the mind is given more room to operate and the inner work in that moment is externalized in a very primal way. The major outcome is that “stuck” states are forced to move and be processed, surprisingly naturally, giving room for clarity and integration.

And you guessed it, Genesis+DR:LD set the foundation for this. I spammed sorrowful songs, mourning the “me” that was trapped in limits.

This gave me the understanding that in the bigger picture, there were truly no negative, positive, higher or lower emotions. The emotions become detrimental in two ways, when they get stuck and they aren’t allowed to flow just the way they were meant to. And when you can’t wield them for your desires.

The game is simply congruency and alignment on your journey. The peaks and troughs are all part of it.