Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

isn’t that counterproductive to say, often time LOA guys say that do not use ‘not’ or words like that in affirmations.

Doesn’t that awake the situation that you don’t want in your mind?

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Doesn’t that awake the situation that you don’t want in your mind?

Only if you believe it. LOA isn’t about accidentally wording something the wrong way and then manifesting the bad thing. The bad thing only manifests if you invest attention/emotion/belief into it.

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I agree with @Judoka that LOA or whatever is more complicated than what pop New Age is saying, even worded through the lens of whatever oriental culture. New Age try to make everything fit an idea of what LOA or manifestation is, even bending what is currently known in science to make it work (quantum?) or altogether rejecting the science that allows us to speak to each other from our mobile phone.
I have very low self esteem and low confidence and low belief in my future compared to most yet I have more accomplishment (factual school and career accomplishments) than most. I often think I will fail and stress about it yet… then I am often hypochondriac yet never manifested the disease I am afraid of.
So I think manifestation is more complicated than just be positive bro.
But obviously this is beyond our current state of evolution and understanding as human being.
Off.

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Ends but how it ends?

Maybe this manifestation things is real, but suffering wars and diseases dominates the world generally, even if you want to change this, most highly personally you can’t change this, but all of the Loa community say you can have everything you want, just believe it.


I was excited when I first saw the Loa books(new age) but now most of them are off for me, maybe there’s truth behind them but Loa things are just too much head off the clouds, poorly reasoned and I cannot just “believe them”.

Most of time they are selling hopes, sometimes I feel it becomes dogmatic and wishful thinking.

Maybe world operates on some rules, but I don’t clearly sure that I can learn them from Loa(new age) books

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Remember some guy on reddit saying he could manifest anything and was manifesting cures to diseases and manifested the covid vaccine lol,and people were just eating it up asking him how, thats what turned me off from it

I know nothing man
Im just happy stuff works for me ooga booga

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I heard that and I do my best to not use that phrasing if I can. And if I forget myself, I just continue and not make a big deal out of it.

Here’s the problem is you’re taking a few examples where it’s scam like and placing it at a position or on a level where it relates to all

Not all people are like that and there are certainly plenty of ways you can manifest your dream life

How many times do you see or hear people say something like oh f this or f that then say oh what else can go wrong today …. Then 80-90% of the time something goes wrong … manifestation is more about energy than anything else

Putting negative energy out there will attract negative energy back to you …. Now does that mean even the most positive person on this planet can manifest nothing but good days … no but he can manage good days more then a non positive person because the energy he gives off comes back to him ….

Things you can do to help manifestation work better is using tools like goals, subliminals, affirmations to an extent, visualization, and the biggest thing is taking action on your goals

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@Judoka are you planning to study in Japan like Steve Segal and Stephen Hayes.

The concept of manifesting/LOA isn’t a new age thing (only the slang/term is but the idea is not). The idea is borrowed from hermeticism which predates both Christianity and Islam by several centuries. Hermetic doctrine in a nutshell states that the universe is all mind.

The issue with new age is, a lot of people learn about it and add their own personal ideas and concepts. Just for shits and giggles: I live in Los Angeles which has a big new age spiritual community, last year I was eating at a fancy pizzaria restaurant outdoors and watched this dude come up to this table next to me and pick up on these 2 girls(they were hot btw). The convo turned spiritual in about 15 seconds and this dude starting using all the buzzterms: VIBRATION, SYNCHORNICITES, HEALING JOURNEY, SELF LOVE, ANGEL NUMBERS, MANIFESTING etc etc. The thing was, he wasn’t making any sense, he was just mashing these buzzwords together in sentences, but the girls were eating it up and couldn’t get enough (and for the record, this dude was avg looking, not male model or anything).

So I kinda get why people get turned off at all things new age(unless you’re a woman in West Hollywood, then you get turned on :sweat_smile:).

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Nero Knowledge gives a fairly simple yet comprehensive info on the matter. Personally, i think the approach he teaches works effectivly!

I say that having learned from many sources like Joe Dispenza, Ekhart Tolle and the Kybalion and i believe Nero Knowledge ties the whole web neatly

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Yes I know this but LOA dominates the market, and I don’t think it’s borrowed but distorted, damaged.

I’ve read some kybalion, hermetica too but I couldn’t find practical things to apply maybe I should read again later

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Or find a system you’re drawn to. If these systems don’t seem to spark anything in you, don’t make yourself adopt them.

For me reading the kybalion made a lot of things make sense(and yes I know a lot of hermeticists don’t coinsider kybalion a real hermetic work).

But if its not your flavor, find something that is.

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Man I can’t wait for the next season

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I can, this season is changing me

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my customs have mostly next season’s upgrades

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please, Renaissance Man

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First we need the new season to begin
Maybe after July 4th :crossed_fingers:

You’re being logical, which is good. What you’ve described is actually the first reaction in my own chain of logic. Do you want to see the whole thing? Feel free to let me know if it interests you.

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Go for it