A lot of information could be packed into 30 seconds.
I think im gonna stick with 30s until the subliminals i play get updated with zpu+anti recon then test the waters by increasing listening time
My understanding follows, and please, since I strive for accuracy, correct me if I’m wrong:
Referencing this post here -
Scripting information on any particular sub is laid out into 4 quadrants, all of which cover the same goal of the subliminal. Each quadrant dives deeper into the topic of the subliminal. I found SaintSovereign’s example of Calculus here to be illuminating.
You start the track with Starter or Brief Calculus (per his example; I think of Pre-Calculus personally though that may just have been my experience in school) at the 00:01 mark. At some point in the track, you will finish with the first quadrant and roll right into the second, then the third, etc.
Microloops work because you limit your exposure to the easiest to understand information on the subliminal topic in the subliminal track. With that said, and using the Calculus example, if you have trouble with math, it will take you a longer period of time in Starter Calculus class to get that information in your head. Moving on to Calc 1, or increasing your listening duration of any particular sub and moving into Quadrant 2, isn’t going to be beneficial since you don’t have the basics down.
There seems to be a great deal of information packed into the subs these days, as people are getting results on 15 second listens (or less!) How much information or scripting is packed into 30 seconds? I don’t know. More than enough, certainly.
My post here is a poor paraphrase of SaintSovereign in that LoveBomb post. Read that one again, por favor.
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@AnswerGroup also is the new judo mastery x going to be a module or a new main title? Because if its a main title ill just have to stick with spartan even though i want to pursue judo professionaly lol,i only want to include 2 subliminal in my custom:
Stark + LOTs then the other custom: paragon + spartan
@Judoka check the hero threads how Saint who created hero began with 30 second loops.
You you will be shocked.
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So it’s really more about being patient than anything else?
Imo staying on 30s seems fine as well
Out of curiosity how old are you?
I’m 57
It often seems like the people that do really well immediately are significantly younger than I am so it means I have to be more patient to work through stuff
not really, at lower listening duration you’d be getting more benefits if you aren’t ready for longer loops. Nothing to be patient about in my opinion
I ran lots of subs like Emperor, HOM, ASBR, EOG in the past with either full loops, or loops that are 5+ min and honestly barely made any considerable progress, just because I’d be drowning in recon (sometimes without noticing it) and wouldn’t have the energy to take action (because a lot of processing of info that I couldn’t integrate would waste a lot of my energy). I did have SOME results but they weren’t really life changing.
Now with 30-60s of AM and 3 min of RICH (built up from 30s) I’m getting more results and growing faster than with the subs above - just because I wasn’t ready to the concepts in them.
Maybe I’d be able to progress with those advanced subs too if I started with like 3-5s loops and would be doing 1s increases like Viktor but who knows. I might try this strategy with Stark Black next cycle, maybe it would work.
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I didn’t see Viktor’s post
The true old skool days were running a title for 12 hours 
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Back in the day I got special speakers so that I could listen to ultrasonic overnight. Now I just listen to a couple of minutes of masked with cheap headphones.
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One thing about this is you are more precisely able to indicate when you are heading into overexposure territory or when you are hitting your sweet spot due to far less compression. One loop would probably process instantly and then you do the next one if you feel like it. Basing your listening schedule on instant impressions as it would not have that lag or delay in processing-reconciliation-results as such.
Overexposure back then was probably not much of a thing.
But listening to only a few minutes is far more convenient none has the time to sit down and listen to subliminal audios all day.
Probably as technology evolves this whole processing-recon-results cycle becomes automatically enhanced and optimised to function well in the human system without causing life disrupting side effects.
Frictionless transformation, yay!
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Most of it is in my journal 
Since we are talking about my results, I believe it’s important that I add more context to it.
The method
Yes. I do +1s every listening day with WB starting from 2s, though i plan to take it even slower at +1s every 2 listening days.
It’s not set in stone either, I allow myself to go back down in playtime if i feel it’s too much for my taste like when I first reached 8s, it didn’t feel right yet so i reset it back to 4s.
Honestly, sometimes I doubt my results with less than 10s of WB.
It feels impossible that the sub can be this powerful at just this short exposure, but these are the same results i got from WB when i ran it longer, if not stronger. The difference this time is it is significantly better because the recon is manageable & negligible. This enhances the results greatly, the sub turned from a rough & overwhelming one into a gentle & easy to follow one. It’s also not kitchensink-y anymore, which was one of my main problems with WB back then. it fits my life perfectly now.
I’ve ran WB for many cycles so i know what WB results are, how the recon feels like, etc.
This is WB.
No other subs in my arsenal manifest things like this.
I have DRR3 for 30m in my stack too, but i know these are not the results from it alone because didn’t get these effects with DRR3 before I added WB to the stack.
My theories about why it is working so well even with such low exposure.
- It could be that just a few seconds was enough to wake up the dormant scripting that has already been installed by my WB runs back then.
- The few seconds of WB i play could be enough to modify/influence/hijack DRR3 to bend its focus towards WB’s goals instead.
I’ve run short loops before. I know it works. But I’m still surprised at how well WB does this time around. It’s not a fluke either. The results are consistent. The ones i got from when I used longer exposure was spotty in comparison. I think it shows by just how much I talk about WB in my journal lately.
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Or maybe it’s just that such a short exposure is just right for your current development in regards to WB goals?
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Yeah, maybe it’s just that straightforward, lol.
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I think its this one
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Yea I think same that it just triggers the memory of the full loops just like how running some program that removes subconscious blockages can suddenly have you get results from programs you ran in the past
I play every track for ten seconds to avoid recon and it’s been working well
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