ZP-aka bareskin…can’t wait until Emperor Magnum is released 
But yes exactly- it’s not bulletproof in the same way but there is way more versatility
Exactly.
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If I was running for something, I’d sure as hell be on Chosen and Emperor. Maybe Love Bomb too. Could sure give you an edge.
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Q worked Outside-In … your actions changed faster, beliefs slower.
ZP works Inside-Out … thoughts/frames change faster, actions build up gradually.
#ExtremeSimplification
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Other than difference in mechanism
I asked on the ZP thread if ZP manifestation, external results, and physical shifting were as strong or stronger than QV2.
Simon/ or anyone who has a sense of this, love to hear your thoughts.
My sense is while they may get there, not initially, the internal changes are more profound, deep, and lasting and as this build, it can create some real momentum.
Not clear if ZP is the full upgrade, or an alternative tool in the tool box- ZP for internal changes predominantly and QV2 for fast external results/ shifting.
Also curious if ZP has the same level of breadth in its effect that Q/QV2 -that I have no sense of at all. It was said that ZP is more focused, so not sure how that impacts breadth.
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Have you looked at the Community Created Article: How is ZP “better” than Qv2?, Introduction to Zero Point, and How Does Zero Point “Push Reality Through the User?” articles on the support site?
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Incisive and elegant as usual. You have an excellent mind.
And with ZP I have to add another level:
Inside-Outside-Extra
Inside=My beliefs
Outside=My actions
Extra=Conditions that seem completely external to my beliefs or actions/Synchronicities
For manifestations in that ‘Extra’ domain (as in, truly external manifestations), ZP seems to send them into overdrive.
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I’ve been running Emperor ZP since it came out.
Stack:
Day 1: Emp Zp
Day 3: Diamond ZP, Paragon Zp
I feel lazy to talk to resourceful people. I feel nervous talking to them. So I just ignore interactions. I feel like it stems from lack of inner power. I can feel some severe loss of inner power.
On the contrary,
Working on a wealth generation pathway. For the first time in my life, I’m not just learning by studying first but I’m learning as I am engaging in it, and earning at the same time. So that’s good
A little confused with the effect of Emperor ZP on
My self esteem, inner power, self worth
People are saying that I’ve become very quiet. The Silence does not come from a place of power
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He did not get angry 
Well that was a neg but reality, I got 92 on mensa
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Interesting?! Maybe emperor zp is trying to tell that talking to that kind of people is nothing more than a waste of time and start working on making money NOW hui hui hui.
Idk but I feel that this effect is interesting
It can be a recon, a clashing effect from using three subs or emperor trying to make you feel powerful in your State by talking less to people who are more resourceful lol… idkk but this is interesting
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you do realize ultima format is the strongest right?
i can listen to primal seduction ultima and 2 hours later walk into a nightclub and get life changing results.
those are life changing results in 2 hours.
i get similar results with libertine ultima.
so pretty obvious that ultima format is best technology for now until verdict comes for ZP.
I don’t know how I missed this, but throughout the private test and now in the public test, I have concluded that ZP physical shifting is much better.
For context: Wanted Qv2 and my custom peaked me at 71kg (after coming off of creatine too) with 11% bodyfat. (5 months total)
Wanted ZP, on the other hand, pushed my body towards achieving the golden ratio with my body, at 73kg with 10% bodyfat, in 2-3 months, which got compounded with EmpZP, and made my arms shoot up from 15.5 inches to 16 VERY quickly, however, as I have issues when it comes to hunger (specifically without WZP in the stack), I dropped to now 72kg with 15.7inches arms.
You probably remember when I started WQv2 and had 13 inches arms 
ahhh those days
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Maybe quicker.
Qv2 main title is more powerful over time.
Maybe Ultima too if you use it as a main title.
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EmpZP has given me super fast banter comebacks… It’s awesome… I’m good at it anyway and I can joke or tell a funny story impromptu better than ever! I had related Qv2 custom modules and don’t remember them working this well.
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If there is smth great about that zp . It will be removing the external manifestation of challenges . And challenge is here is so positive word . Comparing to what was actually happening . No doubt the less reconciliation on zp is related solely to this . Imagine you are bombarding your mind with "challenge manifestations " instead of more flow life experience .
That’s the reason I can play emperor or stark on zp . Even if they ended the experience .
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As far as i remember, people was confused about challenging manifestation on Qv2 subs (specially Starq) and took challenges as if it were problems.
Saint corrected them saying no SC sub will manifest problems at all.
As a last resort challenges are ok: situations that push you to improve your character. All challenges being by nature according to your level of growth.
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Challenge manifestations was from first version of emperor .
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this is from Emperor ZP, or Emperor ZP is highlighting this in you already?
I’ve noticed a strong dissonance between my internal world and how people, especially people who know me well, relate to me on Emperor. I have discovered there actually revealing my biggest weakness and blindspots, (even though initially it seemed like they were misunderstanding me because I didn’t want to accept I could be the way they saw me in any way.).
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Anyone else noticed the intimidation from others while on Emperor?
It seems to stem from other being insecure.
No matter what i do tons of people are extremely intimidated just by my presence.
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What make you think they’re intimidated?
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Cant look me in the eye.
Think twice before asking me anything or even talking to me.
Tell others to ask me things instead of them asking me.
Always check to see if im ohk with their behaviour.
Feel pressurised in my presence.
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