Thank you; I had great experiences with Chosen. I might add Inner Circle to it.
My opinion:
The underlying archetype of the Wealth subliminals (Ecstasy of Gold, Emperor: House of Medici, etc.) is Value. In the overall contemporary world, money/currency is the most conventional expression, placeholder, or signifier of the Value archetype. As such, all of the wealth subliminals will at least to some extent ramify on the domain of Money and Finances.
But if, in your own world, in your identity, and in your lived experience, Intellectual Capital is a primary marker of Value, Medici will also be filtered, harnessed, and guided to impact your capacity with regard to the skillful, discerning management of Intellectual Capital.
Medici is ultimately about the development of vision, relationships, and acumen to confer mastery (both personal and interpersonal) over wealth and wealth-building. What wealth means for a given person can be highly variable.
From your brief paragraph, it does not sound as though you are expressing some antipathy or aversion to money. Rather, youāre expressing that in your world (i.e., in your personal Economics) it is not the most salient factor.
Iād predict that what will happen will be a compromise between the generic social archetype of Value and your own personal expression of that archetype.
In other words, I think that, having used Emperor: The House of Medici for some time, you will probably find that you enjoy working with and mastering conventional currency-based wealth a bit more, and find an increased meaning in the possibilities associated with financial Legacy. At the same time, I also believe that the energy and impetus of the subliminal will also adjust and conform to the intellectual, relational, and academic economics of your personal lifestyle.
That, in the end, is how the subs work. They combine and synergize with the explicit and implicit streams and threads of your own mind. That word āimplicitā is important to remember. We all have, within ourselves, seed forms and potential versions of alternate possibilities. As we continue to evolve, we usually surprise ourselves.
Hopefully this hodgepodge of ideas makes some sense.
Your question was not odd to me.
Thank you so much; the hodgepodge makes a lot of sense to me. Something that came to mind when reading it that I might be able to channel the money aspect into āgrant moneyā, which is different from trying to afford some luxury lifestyle but brings a lot of tangible benefits. Iāll put HOM on the maybe-sometime list of subs.
Precisely.
The ultimate wealth wielded by the Medici family was Influence. The capacity to discern, to anticipate, and to ride the waves and currents of relational influence seems to have been their special genius. Shrewd planning. Astute prediction. Combined with deep appreciation of the aesthetic and its relationship to cultural development.
Looking at the Medici themselves, thereās no way you could limit this program to a narrow financial focus. There was even an intimate relationship to the burgeoning Academia of the pre-Renaissance and Renaissance periods. So, it definitely seems like a program worth looking into for you.
Actually, itās not the money focus that I would question. Itās the Family and Legacy parts. Those seem more central and foundational to me in HoM. Donāt know how interested you are in those parts.
Remember too, that all of the Emperor line of programs are ultimately about establishing, consolidating, and building up a sphere of power, influence, and expression of oneās vision. The HoM empire includes Family, Interpersonal Influence, and far-reaching Vision (i.e., Legacy). At its essence, though, it is still about Empire.
If you are building an Empire, whether itās a financial, corporate empire or not, then the Emperor programs are worth looking into.
Iād recommend also looking into Stark, if you havenāt already.
Any comment on stacking it with Khan?
I completely experienced this on HOM
The forst time which I was motivating myemployees
So if I develop skills that are in demand and will be going forward that would qualify as providing or having value?
Definitely. Success in any space really comes down to having as flexible skill base as possible. Whether thatās going broad with skills so you can always contribute SOMETHING, or going deep and being THE Expert. Or both.
Jim Rohn hit me with that idea before.
I just started a web development career path which is probably the most extensive I have seen. Go in the Full Stack direction. I want to be able to position myself properly starting out and into the future
Iām more back end myself. PHP mainly.
Iām OK with JavaScript. I donāt really have an eye yet for the design/CSS side.
I should do a full stack deep dive sometime.
Yes. Thatās what value is. Value is anything someone else considers valuable and could trade something for. Knowledge, money, sex, etc.

So if I develop skills that are in demand and will be going forward that would qualify as providing or having value?
Yes, though I (personally) wouldnāt say āprovidingā value or āhavingā value.
Iād say ānavigatingā, āharnessingā, wieldingā, āworking withā value.
The distinction to me is that Value (unlike specific commodities: rice, gold bars, etc.,) is not a concrete, tangible item to be gained or lost. Itās more of a quality to be understood and explored. Sort of like āGravityā or āLightā or, even more accurately, āOcean Currentsā. These are just natural phenomena that exist and operate all around us. They are freely available side-effects of the normal functioning of nature.
You donāt need to āhaveā light or āhaveā gravity or have āocean currentsā (or have āValueā). Theyāre always already there, and so you technically already have them.
Itās more that you need to figure them out and understand how to work with them in your given set of circumstances and conditions. In any situation, some people are more skillful in relating to them (like surfers and skateboarders) and some are less skillful.
āValueā is, essentially, the externalization (and symbolization) of Desire.
And we understand Value by frankly and honestly exploring the underlying needs, wants, habits, and forces that create Desire and that govern peopleās lives.
āNo Desireā equals āNo valueā. (Thus, one personās treasure can be another personās garbage.)
Desire is just a set of feelings and perceptions.
And that means that Value is also a set of feelings and perceptions.
While represented by matter, Value is itself fundamentally immaterial.
Now put that in a bowl and chew on it for a few minutes.
(@James, I think that this was a very long way of basically agreeing with your original statement.)
I am trying to start a business, should I use HOM with EoG or Emp with EoG?
I was thinking just EoG with wanted but I was confused whether it will take away the drive and ambition required.
it wonāt, at the start the recon WANTED will manifest as energy drain and lack of productivity. But it will resolve over time.
Do we need alpha scripting for this or the one in WANTED suffices?
EOG WILL skyrocket your income even solo. No doubt about that. it will give you the whole ambition and everything. Now more dominance can come in handy which you could achieve by The commander or other titles.
nice thnx
@WinglissStark whatās are you running now?
I would say go with Emperor or AM or even just mogul for just starting a businessā¦ā¦ then maybe add in the commander and you can keep wanted.
What kind of business?
You could always go through the stages of EoG because they will help with anything you are trying to do financially especially stage 1.

What kind of business?
I am not yet sure. I would want to go in Tech side for which I would have taken Stark but I hate all that fame and extreme social aspect hence I am not going with it.