Main Disc. Thread -- Emperor Black: Twilight of the Gods (Q Module available!)

That could happen, but you can do it the other way with conscious guidance

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It DOES isolate you.
You are NOWHERE near outgoing on this as Khan. And another thing about EB is that it makes you focus so much that your thoughts shift from caring about social power to you goals.
It’s not charisma, it’s pure dominance. Take Khan for example. Khan has dominance but what is the difference? A khan user is not as content as EB user. EB user has extreme dominance(which is JUST for helping you achieve you goals without others’ questioning, on EB I had this crazy edge that I could kick a president’s ass infront of his bodyguards and THEY COMPLIED, cuz they knew that this is NOT domineering, he just wants his business taken care ofand he fucks off, does not want to be disrespected, plays no games, and is courteous enough.) So on EB kinda EVERYONE had a level of respect and fear for me(I would argue that they did NOT love me).
But a Khan is not as content as EB, a Khan is domineering rather than dominant, a Khan is a sophisticated and justified version of a school yard bully(I know the term domineering is a taboo on this forum but this is true.) Khan pushes you to dominate ACTIVELY and GRADUALLY so others do not notice. On EB you dominate ONCE and VERY EXTREMELY, ONKLY if they disrespect you. On Khan you always poke people.

So this actively poking people on Khan creates this love and this hate which is polarity, since on Khan you are more willing to help people in their endeavors. But on EB you could not care less, so not a sub built for social power.

Let me give a real example of my EB experience and Khan experience. While on EB, I don 't help people on the dorm and I also don’t actively seek for better things for the sake of domination. But on Khan I help people and I also manifest situations that gives me better options and wellfare(maybe it’s for the sake of domination) like manifesting a situation which result in me transferring to a better room. Or asking people for favors(if they comply, a little bit of dominance establishes, if not, I will have them in the back of my mind to humble them, and surpsisingly enough I manifest situations to f them up.

This whole drama thing on charisma subs such as stark(yes stark has it’s own drama), PCC, Khan… gives you love from certain individuals. And makes them your followers.

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huh- kind of self evident in my view

EB is about breakthroughs and achievements in focused areas

True Sell=Selling Effectively
Emperor Black= Focus and dominance for the pinnacle of getting stuff done and achievement in a focused area. Combined potentially - the pinnacle of sales effectiveness and achievement

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EB strengthen your desire to isolate yourself which is why I don’t see how it would be useful for sales. Unless of course it makes you social or you could consciously guide it to be that way.

No it is good for sales. On EB you have no honor, nothing. You mold your behavior in a way to be charming for the customer. I don’t know about the sales calls but for those customers who come to your shop and literally giving away power, EB helps tremendously, they come to your shop assuming a weak position and act nicely, so EB helps. This is not a hypothesis, I ran EB as a salesman and it worked TREMENDOUSLY.

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I will keep a note of this just in case I ever need it.

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sounds like a psycopath

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That is the essence of shadow work, right?
A good thing about EB is that it guides you to use this power wisely.

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to me it sounds like a dark form of stoicism

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EB is the pure ancient masculinity I would say. The whole exclusive, dishonorable, isolated, hardworking, providing, no bullshit caveman.
But it’s within the confines of society, not letting you do whatever you want with that dominace, since it will create bad karma.

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Not necessarily true…
That is what is being discovered. EB strengthens the focus on goals. It seems isolation is a side effect of that for CERTAIN goals. This is what I am attempting to clarify.

How does it synergize with roles and goals that involve others.

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Beautiful, thank you for this. I will test EB with my stack next week.

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So my current cycle is going good and I’m not switching out titles (almost done). Seriously considering an Emperor Black RoM experiment in a few days for manifestation. I’m having an effect these days where I think of the names of the old subs I have ran and they execute. I noticed it when planning out my next stack.

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Can you elaborate on the shadow work on EB a bit more, please? Thanks.

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Shadow work, dark side. As Carl Jung and Freud say. Maily primal sexuality and primal agression. I had some crazy thoughts coming to my mind.

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I got a great trailer effect after listening to EB twice but the next day (yesterday), after running it yet again I got recon aimed at my sense of internal power yet all the other aspects (cognitive boost, focus, drive) were maintained. I was not surprised as building internal power up is the main reason I’m running EB. However, upon not running it yesterday the recon has subsided and the sense of internal power has come back. I simply overexposed myself and that triggered the recon, I suppose. Only before I switched to EB, I had used to run fat stacks and keep the exposure high but the recon was really minimal since those subs were not addressing directly my main missing link on the way to the sky - internal power.

On a side note.
When the recon subsided the results of KBC got more intense as well.

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I had the same experience in my first cycle.

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I noticed that effect for the first time when I was running Stark Terminus. Later on, the results looked more like stonewalling and my baseline didn’t increase even though I kept listening to it for some time. On ZP, it’s different as it seems to sink in deeper after the initial mind-blowing results (the trailer effect). Then the baseline (when it comes to the sense of internal power) starts increasing slowly but gradually. Only on the old Commander (Q) the initial results didn’t subsided till the end of my run (for around 3-4 weeks) in that regard. I wonder how about the newest Commander.

When it comes to other results like productivity, determination, focus, cognitive boost etc. they are quite consistent.

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I get you. EB hasn’t had the same effect it had on the first cycle in my case as well.

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I was talking about a very old now version of Stark. I listened to it aorund three years ago. :blush:

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