Anyone in therapy or counseling whether 1 on 1 or in group setting tried Dragon Reborn stacked with True Social? I wonder how that might combo. You’d be really insightful about your own challenges and you’d be able to be open and honest about them potentially gaining most benefit from such a situation?
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Listening to my last loop of DR ST1…it’s not an easy ride
I don’t know what Dr st2 will work on me after 5 days
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I get such a strange and interesting mixture of responses to Dragon Reborn.
For example, often right after I’ve played my loop, or maybe even in the day or two afterwards, I’ll experience this kind of energy drop. It’s not tiredness, it’s an energy-retraction. Like a trumpet gets blown, and all of the soldiers, the farmers, the scouts, the horses and cattle that were in the surrounding fields; they all get recalled back to the castle. There’s this sense that everything is being drawn back to the center, and I’ll feel disengaged from the surrounding world.
On the other hand, there’s this other movement that happens.
The clearest example of that one:
February 11 - I play my first loop of Dragon Flight (Dragon Reborn Stage 3). Then as I’m taking my daily walk on the 12th or 13th, I ‘suddenly’ and ‘for no particular reason’ feel like jogging instead of walking. And then the same thing happens the next day and the next. Then I think, ‘what if I worked through the 0 to 5k training regimen again?’ And the next thing I know, it’s a month later and I’ve been slowly increasing my jogging for the past 3-4 weeks.
So, I can observe this energetic refinement and restructuring process happening.
I used to run 5 to 10 k years ago. Then I decided to switch to lifting and gaining mass. That and a combination of other things led to my running really falling off. If I get back there, I’ll dedicate some of my runs to Dragon Reborn because it will have clearly played a part in getting me back there.
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So that pattern really looks to me like:
Short-term Energy Drop (due to energy restructuring, rehabilitation, refinement)
Long-term Energy Increase (greater efficiency, better, healthier practices, etc.)
Also:
my description above does not do proper justice to just how far my jogging/running had fallen off. Due to injuries (tendons, ligaments, fascia), asthma/poor respiratory function, lack of regular practice, more time spent on job.
When I say I’m jogging now, I mean that I’m jogging 90 seconds and walking 90 seconds. Last week was jogging 45 seconds walking 90 seconds. So, I’m starting from the bottom again. But already yesterday, I noticed an improvement in respiratory function and gradual strengthening of connective tissues. I found myself starting to think about better stretching and mobility practices to further help the process.
Okay. Stop there.
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Here’s a great summary of my Stage 1 ride:
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I am backing off from my own commitment for my own good…I made a decision last time which turn out to be not so great…So no more DR for the next 3 months
2 cycles of DR stage 1 is tremendous. I thought I’d need 6 months for sure on it but I’m on washout now and since I started my washout I’ve been surprised by how good I’m feeling again. Rough ride at times absolutely but at this point it is easily worth it. There were some very rough days and moments for sure but it’s been worth it. I only listened to DR every four days. For good measure I’m continuing with Stage 1 for another cycle just because I want max strength benefits from each stage and especially stage 1.
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Very nice. I’m happy for you. I know coming from me that it sounds like I’m being sarcastic but I genuinely mean it
I’m incredibly curious if Dragon Reborn can finally help resolve life long mental and emotional issues? It’s starting to seem like it although I refuse to say it’s a replacement for professional help.
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Thank you, James.
No one and nothing would ever be able to do for me what DR has done for me so far and it did it like a real ninja - inconspicuously and with deadly precision. I’m really tempted to run one more (3rd) cycle although I don’t see any real need to do so. I guess it’s only a matter of running the program in the future if needed.
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I will run st4 for couple of cycles every winter.
I´m on it now, fantastic sub!
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Huh! This makes me want to do a “quick run” of the whole DR-ZP when I’m done with my current project 
@Sub.Zero You’re welcome
I know how you feel. There is nothing out there that comes close to what Dragon Reborn does
I know it’s frownd upon but I almost want to run Dragon Reborn ZP and Dragon Reborn QV2 together to see what happens
Maybe I can stop being so damn sensitive
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No real need to run both since the ZP version is so damn powerful. I run one loop every other day and it’s really more than enough. Naturally, one could try to run more loops depending on one’s needs.
Like @Gemstone mentioned, it may be a good idea to rerun the program (or its certain stages) every now and then as this little kitten simply rocks.
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I left DR after completing ST1 in my last cycle…& I am glad I left it because I am unable to handle the chaos it was bringing into my life…I know there are more things that needed to be healed but running too many multi-stage subs like Khan ST1 & DR ST1 both are healing based is just an idiotic & certainly the most inexperienced foolish decision I made…
It shows how much I do things on impulse or by seeing its silver lining instead of logical thinking or at least asking experience users & get their opinion & suggestions…because they have experienced these over many years…
I promised myself I won’t over-expose myself from now on…stick to 3 titles rules & after 3 months…I will again ask forum members for the best stack for my own need lol
Running LB with Khan ST2 was my best decision yesterday…all thanks to @Athanaxos but it doesn’t mean that I won’t Run DR in the future…I will for sure & will complete all 4 stages & get myself completely healed…
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Well if that is your nature as a person, DR will just bring more of it, won’t it? Because it reveals your true self.
If you want to be more resilient, you prolly need to run an alpha title?
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is it mean that healing subs just make me realize who I am as a person by bringing out all emotional trauma I stored in my sub conscious mind…we need to reprogram our minds in order to replace this thinking which came out by DR
so in order to change is healing necessary or without healing, we can replace our thought pattern by being more alpha
I cry a lot while arguing…this happens during my cycle of khan & DR st1…if I listen to more alpha titles then I would be more alpha without bringing past traumas?
I hope you get my point
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Now this is my personal opinion OK:
I think we’re born with a certain personality. This, however, is shaped, removed, altered, etc. while growing older through traumas, indoctrinations, etc.
Thus, healing the traumas reveals your true self (again).
This is especially true for dealing with women. Simping and NiceGuyisms are put in our mind over decades. A young boy never simps for a woman. Sure, there is no sex involved, but he certainly does not have his life controlled by the other gender.
So, you gotta understand, the subs you run are chosen by your current programming. Which is why most start with sexual subs, because we want the external validation from sex.
This is also why we keep hopping subs, not just recon which is a big factor, but also because we realised along the path a part of our true self (I think ALL ZP subs heal your core to a degree), and then we want to focus more on this.
For example I came to run just Primal, not for the sex and the Inner Game, really only because I wanted to be back with my true unapologetic masculinity.
I think healing subs just accelerate that because they remove all the shit. Once you are your true self, at least in part, you already have all the answers.
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so basically healing sub make our self aware that what’s wrong with us then after that it will be easy for us to reprogram our mind with new belief…which seems hard with all the old bad limiting fearful scary shitty belief we stored in our mind in past
healing sub make path clear & make us ready to install new programming or belief in our mind
I overexposed myself with EoG & QL with already 3 subs which are also multi-stagers…may be that’s why I felt terrible in my last cycle
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If you do healing then focus on healing only.
Why?
Healing overpowers other subs, so there is no room for other subs, they only occupie you for nothing. Your system need the capacity to Heal.
Its similar to a broken foot, you need time to heal but if you include other subs it’s like you start jumping on this foot. The result will be a longer healing process.
Also the more successful healing you have done the better other subs work afterwards
I did over 1 year Dragon Reborn, a custom for every stage.
There is no room for other subs in this time except
The Elixir
Rebirth
Sanguine
Lovebomb
Also don’t mix 2 fourstagers together.
Do Dragon Reborn or do Khan st1
I am on my 2. Khan st1 cycle and I can only imagine how much of a hard time you are going through.
All the best to your Journey
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That’s an interesting insight. Thank you for sharing.
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