been using this sub consistently but randomly as an add on to my stack.
My goal was increase flaccid size and thats exactly what I have achieved; I can now classify myself as a "shower”
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Oh god please no dick pics please 
hide the kids… nah I’m just joking 
But it goes to show to all the non-believers… it all starts with the belief that it can be done 
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So you evolved from a grower to a shower?
That’s an interesting result.
How long did it take?
I would say about a couple months but that’s with sporadic loops here and there on impulse
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Anyone have a report on what consistent use does?
Just downloaded. Happy with how my first sub has been affecting me so thought I’d try this. Actually, I’m already happy with my size, but would always love to have a monster down there.
The real reason I thought I’d try is because of instinct. I just couldn’t help shake the feeling that I need this for something, even though my head said ascension would be better. I’m interested to see what my gut has in store for me…
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This sub is a different kind of ascension 
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Lmfao. But seriously, I think you’re right. This is calling me on an instinctual level, so there’s something here for me…
During my first day I had several waves of energy being released all over my body. Felt the need to research this jelqing thing as well. I did it for a few mins and saw instant results.Made me feel stronger and more alpha.
I think this definitely is a different kind of ascension…
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Finally getting a chance to expieriment with this one as customs cleared up quite a bit of room in my stack. This one feels very light to include in my stack without taking my focus away from my health/wealth goals.
2 loops so far about 8 minutes total in the past week. 100% notice a difference already as many others have mentioned especially in flacid state, but also in frequency of erections, and partner has made comments as well.
As my customs cover everything else I need, I plan on keeping this in my rotation for awhile, will keep this updated here.
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I’m always so glad to see news on this thread, it’s always so uplifting to hear about all the personal growth that happens around the world!
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About BDLM my experience is that if you want to see results quick then you have to solo it so all your energy is focused on that one goal.
I bet it applies to every physical shifting sub, the body is the slowest most rigid structure of our being so it needs a lot more power to get affected and changed compared to emotions and mind which are more subtle and flexible forms of energy.
It’s quite a sacrifice considering all the other amazing subs but it’s worth it if this is an objective you care about, and the cool thing is that unlike psychological changes the physical ones are easily noticeable so progress is very easy to track and get excited about.
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With the exception of KB3 and perhaps other subs that provide you with said energy.
Only I don’t know which ones would fit.
So Below perhaps?
KB3 is a good powerhouse to generate sexual energy to boost other subs.
BDLM is one of those few subs i saw nothing in terms of growth. Perhaps in the new version i will see changes.
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Do you mean you tried the original and it didnt work for you and you are about to test out the current update with nse?
Anyone notice more improvement on this version compared to the last that has used both?
I haven’t used the old version only the updated. Just ran here and there over the course of a couple weeks but I felt like I saw a noticeable difference even if it was my own perception. On top of that the aura/ BDE was pretty nice as well.
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Has anyone else been running this with some results to share?
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I think there was a size journal.
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I did, as well. And the results hang around, pun intended, to this day.
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Yeah I think there are 2 proper journals of this, and the results are pretty impressive. Especially @SoulFire where he grew a few cm without PE or anything like it
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