Are you telling me that I can’t freely express my opinion?
Or are you telling me that you don’t trust saint’s judgement on how the company should proceed?
( Saint is gonna do what saint does (which I love him for it). We are just here to express what we think and explore possibilities.)
Also, I would actually like to hear more reasons why you guys want SB without fame (like what would u replace the fame with?), i kinda don’t understand it.
I don’t want fame. I prefer being the guy in the background, but still in control. I would not replace fame with anything.
I don’t understand why someone would want fame. So lets not make any subs that have fame scripting in it.
Obviously I’m not asking for that.
If you want fame, it’s ok. Me not wanting fame should be ok too.
Yep !!! I thought it was Seductress but I’ve come to realize that it’s from SB.
Well, I was saying that coz I personally didn’t want saint to spend time making a “stark black without fame” when he could be dropping his regular dose of fire.
So, thats my motive on speaking up.
Again, saint does what he does… I just enjoy talking here (BTW, i think I completely fixed my myopia coz of one post here, this community is beyond amazing).
I’m totally fine if there wont be one. I do understand the reality of running a business, after all.
And I do agree, I would rather not see their energy wasted on something that didn’t have a big audience. Even if it means I have to “settle” on other wealth titles.
i’m curious…
How do you think the social influence in stark-black-without-fame comes from?
What archetype do you have in mind in SB without fame?
I don’t have any archetype in my mind.
I see it as a tool.
If you read the sales page, you’ll notice that there is a lot more to it than fame. It’s the fame that puts it into overdrive.
Which in turn means that I’d rather integrate all the other parts first and then run ASBR if I needed the fame part. Like a two stager.
I still do believe that running a leaner stack is faster. That’s why I run single stack.
Doctor Frederick Frankenstein, Doc Brown in ‘Back to the Future’… Mad Scientist archetype…
Maybe some other scientist/innovator/artist that become famous (lol) after death.
You can count secret societies and figures alike… That running things behind the veil.
None of these above is i am interesed in becoming though.
I’d jump on that baby the second it launches.
Well its already been one cycle on ASBR not experienced the fame part it doesn’t matter to me. Whether I experience the fame or not.
I’ve been having this idea for a program (to continue the comic book theme) called Reed Richards. It would be genius innovation without the Tony Stark fame, playboy component.
The freedom, resources, and mental flexibility to innovate prolifically within your field.
Richards fit a very different archetype. A family man whose power is in his intellectual creativity. This is more of a combination between Stark and CHOSEN.
That’s still my favorite version. I wasn’t quite born for that one. But it was still playing in reruns when I was a boy. (Wow. Imagine a time when actual jazz style music was being used in normal pop cultural settings. The 60s.)
I’m saying whether or not you think fame is necessary for the success of a person running Stark Black is an individual consideration that each person makes for themselves, which you are also free to make for yourself.
Also, I obviously trust Saint lol. He asked if there was demand for a product, and I made a poll to help him gauge that demand, and now we are all talking about how strong the demand is.
Personally I am not interested in fame, as I think it would be an ego trap for me which I am not sure if I am ready to overcome.
See Saint’s quote above, bolding is mine.
Sounds like Ultimate Programmer. It opens up your creativity and innovation for tech without necessarily adding fame.
This is one of the reasons why we’re considering it. The age of the traditional influencer is coming to an end and many people are rabidly avoiding public “fame” while still wanting to innovate – us included. That’s why we warned about the price of fame in the copy. People tend to project their own darkness on you, and will believe that they actually “own” part of you, or can dictate what you can or can’t do.
The fame scripting in ASRB is very much directed at using it to fuel awareness of your product / service / business, but it’s still very potent.
My biggest concern is that it’d overlap with Nouveau R.I.C.H. and add confusion. Also don’t want to have to support another SKU, hence why we’d release it as an experimental. May not get many updates and the such.
Personally, I’d be fine with this. An experimental No-Fame version. Few updates is ok as I can’t imagine these brand new titles will be getting any updates until the fabled ZPv3 anyway.
I understand the vision of Stark and its aims. It’s a very good title specially for those who truly want fame, and is comfortable in the spotlight. I wish my personality was more like that actually.
That said, I’d run this experimental if it comes to fruition. Never felt luckier or life becoming smoother than when I am on Stark, and even more so with Stark Black.
When Sub Club mentioned reality bending, I saw it with this title. Wish whatever that is, is included in New AM or RICH at least, it’s very powerful scripting and gelled well with my mind.
The manifestations I’ve seen while running SB was very obvious to me that it eclipsed previous iterations since I’ve discovered SC. I felt I’m running a valuable title and I have such a huge advantage with me on my personal journey.
Fame is such a wide encompassing phenomena and with it comes with certain perks and baggages. At this time, I only want some of the end results that comes with it. Being well regarded, VIP treatment, high status, respect and perhaps some admiration, importance, a high SMV which works well for my short term or long term relationships.
I’m not superstitious, but I’m a little stitious. To me, not all attention is a welcomed one.
New titles like KB and SB cemented in my mind that this company is truly evolving and getting better and better at their craft.
I mean everyone has their own preference of what they would change in a subliminal, me personally i would get rid of the romantic aspect
Maybe an ability to consciously control fame would be a good idea.
Like u can turn it off (if u want to) when u r in public.
But u can turn it on when u want to market ur product… etc.
I kinda wish the main SB itself was this way…
Why not make it like Diamond? Two versions. With or Without Fame. Also, Saint said that if you don’t like the fame aspect you can stop for a couple of cycles. So play it for a while, and alternate it with something else.