Yeah that was last week, implying this week.
lol it will drop when it is done an ready. it so exciting that there are some nice updates coming out for older product, want to see ultimate artist, rich or another wealth sub and maybe the diamond update.
i want to know what so game changing about revelation of dreams.
Also something they dont meet the date they give which mean it just comes out even better i feel.
@SaintSovereign
Is there anyway we can get the preview box art for the Revelation of Dreams title?
Looking forward to testing it either way. In washout phase so can gladly add it to rotation once its released.
Iām thinking on the lines of revealing things in dreams or maybe tied to your personal dreams you want to achieve and allow you to work towards it whilst sleeping. Unveiling key things to do once you wake up.
Excited for it.
I will go with it. ROB
The answer was already given.
Eager to add this into my stack once itās released.
Anyone here got any plans to run it? Any ideas if itāll differ from Dreams Zp?
First of, congrats @Fractal_Explorer and @Nemesis for figuring this out. Well played!
And ohmygod @SaintSovereign will you marry me!?!?!
If you only knew how many ārevelation of dreamsā customs I have theorycrafted to this date, but never felt quite satisfied with any of them⦠and then you drop thisā¦?! My mind is melting from excitementā¦!
Oh, if you only knew⦠Youāll hate it compared to how much Iāll love it
Some argue that āmanifestationā occurs when you get your subconscious on board with your wishes. And dreaming is as consciously close to your subconscious āas you can getā (broadly speaking), and to manifest through dreams is not only a sound idea, itās a profound one. And an old one
I feel and think that the heightening of intuition and āintuitive understandingā regarding dreams makes sense in a ārevelation of dreamsā -title. I think/hope that it will be included.
And lastly, you can rehearse things in your dreams which will improve your real-life skills in the waking state. Think of it like you are a professional sports athlete thatās visualizing the motions and outcomes that will bring you the gold. Itās the same thing, but even closer to your subconscious mind and (I would argue) thus even more powerful than wide-awake visualization techniques.
I would love that. When you take a closer look at the subject of dreams, some of the worldās greatest pieces of art and innovations were sparked by someone dreaming about it. Or dreaming about solving a complicated mathematical equation, and then proceeding to solve it in real life. You all know the idiom to āsleep on itā when trying to solve a problem. Even science proves it.
Not to mention the use of dreams as a mirror to your waking life. Getting to know your dreams and understand your personal dream signs is to get to know you, but on one of the deepest levels possible. Like understanding what it means when you are in your childhood home hiding from the T-rex prowling just outside the house.
And this is just the first-floor stuff. We havenāt even touched on the more woo-woo subjects of healing and radical remissions, remote healing o others, modern dream incubation as well as ancient greek dream incubation, shared dreams, prescient dreams, and using dreams as a challenge to level up your courage and determination. And meditating while dreaming or meta-dreaming is a mind-blowing experience that everyone should get a chance to try!
All this is why I am so damn excited about Revelation of Dreams becoming a thing. Indeed, after RoM and RoS, RoD felt like the logical next step in the exploration of the cosmic realities. And if RoD will be anything at all like RoM or RoSā¦
Oneiromancy is not just about understanding dreams or triggering lucidity.
Itās the exploration of the Materium-Immaterium-connection itself.
I think my excitement above speaks for itself here
@Athanaxos - damn son!
Since you know a bit about dreams, I have a question.
Whenever I dream, there are rare times when I am lucid and can control the outcome of my dreams. But this usually happens a very few times. Maybe 1 time in a 100.
And it does feel frustrating when I wake up. Wondering why I canāt make out it is a dream.
So does this relate to manifesting what we want in real life? As in the lack of control of a dream reflects lack of control in reality?
Basically not being able to make your dreams come true?
Excellent question!
TLDR: I would say no. Lack of conscious control in your dreams is the ādefault modeā for most if not all people, and itās not a signifier of lack of control in real life. However, the contents of the dream scenes themselves can give you some hints about it. Mapping out your personal dream signs and āscaresā can give you more insight into it over time.
*** THE RANT ***
Deliberately triggering lucid dreaming is a skill that one has to practice for, and even then it can be difficult to achieve on a regular basis. It can happen naturally without training but happens only a handful of times over the lifespan for most people. Iāve tried on and off in periods for the past 5 years, with plenty of dream recall, but only a handful of lucid dream experiences where I had full or semi-full control.
So I would say your experience is not a reflection of control in reality or not making dreams come true, as your experience is the ādefault modeā so to speak.
My personal experience is that whenever I feel fear, anxiety, worry, stuckness, loss of control, or overwhelm in the dream regardless of lucidity, then I take that as a sign and reflection of the āstatusā of my waking life. As if my subconsciousness is trying to solve the āwaking real-life issueā by putting me in a simulated situation.
For instance, one of my dream scares is meeting bears, because I perceive them as a powerful force and a wild and untamed (ie uncontrollable), potentially lethal threat to my well-being. If I am stressed or overwhelmed or out of control or fearful of the (ādangerousā) unknown in my waking life, then the dream encounter with the bears will most likely reflect that.
On the other hand, if I feel in control in my waking life, with agency and love, and gratefulness, then my dream encounter with them will be radically different. Two examples to further illustrate ā
Bear Recall 2017-09-14
So, I had a dream about bearsā¦
They have essentially replaced my wolves as the scares of my dreams. I donāt fear wolves anymore. But bears? Now thatās a real fear that I have.
Completely irrational.
When would I ever meet one in real life?
But in my dreams, they appear scary to me. Deadly. A certain Death. And I know that this is just a figment of my imagination and a play on my fears. They represent what I donāt want to face. Funny enough, the bears of my dreams are actually the shadows that would haunt the dreams of others instead. Hah, and I get bears⦠(a funny side note is that I did dream about a big wolf, but I wasnāt afraid of it. In fact I faced it and fought it off)
Anyway, I will have to find a way to mentally (and emotionally) face them. Either overcoming them with power - or with love as in accepting them. If and when I accept them in my dreams (and approach them without the expectation to be hunted) they simply wonāt⦠since they are my own creation. An expression of my mind. And well enough, they do represent the things I fear to face. So by facing them, I am accepting that I do have these fears, and it will make me stronger, and soon enough I will be strong enough to really face them in my own life.
So⦠bears.
Bear Recall 2017-09-27
So, I had a dream again. About bears. Or more specifically, just one bear. A grizzly.
And it was a magical sort of. He had white-ish eyes, like he was blind but could still see with them. And he was old. Very old.
Anyway, I and someone else were out hiking, I think, and there was snow and stuff. And then we came to a place free from snow, with bare pine trees and rocks and dried pine needles covering the ground. And there I met him (it?). It looked hostile, and I did feel threatened and scared at first. But then something changed. I am not sure exactly what, but I did decide to approach the bear in a friendly way. And suddenly I was not afraid of it anymore.
I think I woke up after that. But still! I did dream about a huge (and scary) seemingly ancient and magical grizzly bear, and I approached it without fear! Now this is significant! Not only had bears replaced wolves as the scares of my dreams, but now one very scary bear appeared, and I became friends with it. Well, at least friendly.
But I overcame that scare, and thatās amazing! I am finally taking control over my life, and I feel like my subconscious (dreams) is reflecting that. And also, were he (it?) an Other, I might just have made a powerful ally.
I am becoming more and more powerful. This is amazing. I am truly starting to take control. I suppose it means that I am becoming less and less frightened and scared in my waking life. I know I can take control, so I feel more relaxed.
Here in Sweden bear encounters are rare, especially with lethal outcomes. So to me, they are a merely dream-sign and a representation of the wild unpredictable force of the unknown. This and the past year Iāve had dreams of wolves prowling around the house, fearful of them getting my two chihuahuas - which funny enough results in me bum-rushing toward them wild doggos while screaming like I was in Braveheart. No fear for myself anymore. Only rage and determination to protect my smol bois. See how my relation to my ādream scaresā changed over the years, as my personal development progressed?
And another dream-scare of mine is getting late to work or forgetting that I had to go to work, and me being unable to call my job to let them know. Still trying to figure out what thatās about though
I find dreams to be soo fascinating for so many reasons. Not just for fun, but also for shadow work and personal development, problem-solving, and reaching into the unknown and the woo-woo⦠which is why I am so redonkulously excited about Revelations of Dreams
I was reluctant if I should share this here in the open forum but felt intuitively inclined to do so, to showcase the awesomeness of a potential RoD title:
16th of May, 2022.
I had been running Alchemist st1 and Quantum Limitless st1 for some time. Some Mindās Eye in my backpack too. In the dream, I was in the Ukrainian countryside. Mariupol, more specifically. And I dreamt about a certain military regiment being evacuated. And to my shock, I read in the news only days after that the very specific regiment I had dreamt about had been āevacuatedā, on the 17th of May, 2022.
So, I had the dream the same night as it happened in real life.
Imagine that, and add some RoM and RoS on top of it. Just thinking about the possibilities blows my mind
And lastly a final reflection on RoD:
We integrate and organize information during our REM sleep, and commit to long term memory things that we have learned. So, potentially, wouldnāt an āunfoldingā Revelation of Dreams -title be a powerful tool for integrating subliminal scripts from other titles as well?
Basically using dreams as a mean to boost the results of other subs?
Beautifully explained, @Athanaxos. I do appreciate the detail you went into. Got some clarity on things.
Thank you
Interesting that youāve been at this for a long time. Bears may be your biggest concern to your subconscious as it may be a big threat as you say. Maybe their characteristics are scary due to how big and powerful they are alongside how fast they can run (40mph some can run! D:)
A big concept of masculinity is based on strength and power. A bear (and a gorilla for that matter) easily outmatch us in that regard. It may be because Bears are wild and primitive compared to humans that it takes more than a societal check to ensure they donāt rip your limbs off and thatās what makes them scary. Using dreams to eliminate our fear or even train ourselves to fight this fear directly (like training a character in a video game to fight a boss) can give us the much needed kick to help us when we are awake.
Imagine turning our dreams into a hyperbolic time chamber (Dragon ballz) and spending what we treat as days/weeks/months of consolidating whatever useful information we obtain or integrating a new skill when in actuality it is just one night of sleep. Imagine going to bed setting the intention to learn a new language. You dream of waking up in say (Japan) and spend what feels like months there just absorbing the dialect and understanding the alphabets. Speaking the language like a local. Thenā¦you wake up. All of that integration at itās strongest so you flip open a pad and write like a maniac to help keep all that knowledge from being lost.
I am excited to see what ROD can do for us with other subluminals as well.
I am listening to
Matthew Walker why we sleep
And right now I am on a chapter about REM and we have the most time in the REM phase from the animal kingdom and from an evolutionary standpoint it is very advantageous to have it. Thanks to that we can think more creatively etc.
Forgot to mention just to maybe inspire others, that the next cycle will start with Paragon sleep because by bettering the REM phase and sleeping overall, you will have more energy, better health, and better integration of subs.
RoB? Maybe some out of body remote viewing sub?
I hope ROD will be some kind of fusion of Paragon Sleep and Dreams
And they climb trees⦠But yes I think your assessment is accurate, especially so regarding masculinity based strength and power, along with the wild and primitive aspect. Tells from my Shadow that these are aspects that I must integrate.
There is more utility to this than what one might first consider. I find myself regularly fighting in dreams, and Iāve found that my attitude in these dream fights very much reflects my waking state, and vice versa my progress in waking life reflect on my capacity in these dream fight scenarios. Indeed, I even wanted to make a āNehpalem riftā sort of custom to this end, though that was some time ago.
Indeed!
But why limit yourself to just a day or week or months? Why not entire lifetimes? After all, time is not an issue here. I read a book about that some time ago⦠but recall fails me which one it was. Will have to check my notes again, maybe Iāve saved a reference to it somewhere⦠Imagine RoD, with RoM unfolding elements and Quantum Limitlessā Time Dilution or even Khronos Key, for extended dream time experience?
The possibilities both excite me and flabbergasts me at the same time. The dreaming mind and sub/un/consciousness is indeed one of the greatest and most elusive frontiers of all time.
I absolutely adore Mathew Walker. Such a gentle soul, and what a soothing voice, too! If you havenāt already you should definitely check out Rich Rollās Podcast episode Sleep Is Non-Negotiable with Walker.. It is a bit long, but its an excellent episode. I watched it in 1-hour segments, but itās absolutely worth it.
Which is why I think that part of Paragon: Sleep ought to be included in a RoD title
@SaintSovereign could we get a small script on daydream, it could help with focus and consolidating reality.
Waiting for RoD to drop be like:
Am doing the same for Revelation of Body.