Main Dev. Thread - Beyond Limitless ZP

[Tomcat]

Absolutely.

[Matrix]

So any chance of knowing when will it be dropped?(ik it is in progress)

Hopefully today

[MadaraUchiha]

Does anyone know when this is getting released?

[Palpatine]

No. It’s on the roadmap site.

[MadaraUchiha]

Im one week into running minds eye ZP solo and no noticeable changes in this department yet.

Products that work for me usually work within 1 or 2 loops so would you advise me to try anothr product or stay with minds eye solo for another week?

[Seeker]

It looks like they’re trying to get everything out sometime next week (bolding mine):

@SaintSovereign

The SubClub Black Suite is on the way (Alchemist, rvX, apX, As Above, So Below, Dreams). After that, we’re moving on to the last stretch of the preview and releasing all remaining products hopefully by mid-next week.

[SaintSovereign]

@MadaraUchiha

Products that work for me usually work within 1 or 2 loops so would you advise me to try anothr product or stay with minds eye solo for another week?

Try it for another week. This one is a bit more subtle, and will probably take a bit longer to show its power, especially since you’ve stated that you don’t see images in your mind’s eye / lack the ability to visualize. The other titles you’re running are probably building on a strength you already have, allowing you to see the changes immediately.

[MadaraUchiha]

thank you for your thoughts.

just so there is no confusion; i did edit that post to specify that the more i think about im not sure if i can or cannot create images/videos in my head because its just something i NEVER do.

what i do know for sure is that i pretty much NEVER do any deep/serious thinking in my head.

When i need to make any sort of even slightly important decision i always sit down and write out my thoughts.

i just thought i should clarify that to make sure Minds Eye is the best product for me. because i have been wondering if maybe i should have went with limitless ZP solo instead.

because my last 3 week block where i tested like 5-7 different ZP products to see if the ZP format could be used like ultimas, i remember i tested Limitless ZP once for just one loop and i remember the results where promising.

so been wondering if maybe i made a mistake and should have went with limitless ZP solo for this 3 week block.

and yes i know people will see this and say to run both but i really do not like running more then one product at a time unless its a combo that makes perfect sense like using libertine to attract women and diamond to give a good sexual performance. unless its a perfect fit like that i really avoid using more then one product at a time.

[SaintSovereign]

Hmmm, in that case, it depends on what your end goal for Mind’s Eye is. If you’re trying to use visualization to make better decisions, stick with Mind’s Eye. If you’re just trying to enhance your overall decision making skills and you have no problem with writing out your thoughts (which is common for a lot of people, my fiancee included), then go with Limitless ZP solo.

@MadaraUchiha

i really do not like running more then one product at a time unless its a combo that makes perfect sense like using libertine to attract women and diamond to give a good sexual performance.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this, and it tends to generate better results because you’re hyper-focusing on one particular issue.

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

If you’re just trying to enhance your overall decision making skills and you have no problem with writing out your thoughts (which is common for a lot of people, my fiancee included), then go with Limitless ZP solo.

thanks a lot.

this is very helpful feedback.

today is my day off since schedule is every other day; if i decide to switch to Limitless do you think i should take an extra day off since im switching products or does not matter and i can just start Limitless ZP solo tomorrow?

[bombayduck]

@SaintSovereign

and you have no problem with writing out your thoughts (which is common for a lot of people, my fiancee included), then go with Limitless ZP solo

What do you mean by this exactly? Do you recommend that people running Limitless write down their thoughts?

[Palpatine]

He brought that up in response to @MadaraUchiha stating the personal preference to write thoughts out

[Lion]

@SaintSovereign

to use as a “booster,” but ya’ll know that I find that word very politically charged right now and we’ll be changing it to something else

I always liked the old term supercharger which we used for titles like Legacy, Elixir, etc. Maybe we can call these new ones “ZP chargers” based on their build. Sounds like quick, zippy chargers too lol.

@SaintSovereign

Now, what we’ll be testing soon is whether or not running this version will count against your three ZP stack limit. We are hoping that you can use a title like BLU once or twice a week without recon, as once again, it won’t contain the types of scripting that usually generates recon (like healing scripting).

This would be great to use along with my already full stack of 3 which doesn’t have any titles for creativity. So BLU could help me with my writing.

Eagerly waiting for the release.

[SubliminalUser]

@Lion

zippy chargers

I’m sold.

[SubliminalUser]

Is this product shelved now that we know we won’t be getting shorter runtimes?

[SaintSovereign]

No, we’re still going to test the concept of the “booster,” just not in 7 minute format.

[NinjaFox]

Also any update on if it will count towards one of the three zp subs in a stack?

[bombayduck]

Well I think that’s the entire point of “testing the concept of the booster” (as per Saint’s words). The whole point is to figure out whether or not they can make something that won’t count towards one of the 3 subs.

[NinjaFox]

Make sense. Just wanted to leave the question there still. If it turn into a booster hope it a new lifecharger.

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

Now, what we’ll be testing soon is whether or not running this version will count against your three ZP stack limit.

why are you trying to accommodate the trouble makers who refuse to follow instructions?

if the product is ready then im sure most of us will happily use it as one of 3 products.

why try to accommodate the need to use more then 3 products at a time?