Luther's Khan journal

@Luther24 As an example of a useful post and analysis:

This is the order:

Personality → Social Fluidity → Escalation → Seduction → Technique

Which leads me to the question: Would a long term run of my Stark - Emperor - Wanted stack be useful in addressing that continuum?

If only you knew the power of the dark side! :sunglasses:

The issue I’ve been noticing with running Emperor + Stark is you have to REALLY spend a lot of time with both of these titles to really reap the rewards, they take months and months of consistent action on for there to be noticeable effects after the initial two cycle bloom.

It boils down to do you need fast results from more narrow titles, or are you in the position with a business or career to watch Emperor + Stark flourish.

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But yeah @Melior don’t feel bad or think that you’ve ruined the journal or anything. If anything be proud that you sparked this insightful discussion.

I’ve been thinking about this stuff for a while now.

A week ago I was thinking about introducing some of my family members to Subliminal Club.
These are very normal and simple minded people.

The way people talk, think and use language here, is too intense and not welcoming for a broad enough range of people. The ideas are too much, everything needs to be toned down in my opinion. It needs to be more PG-13 especially in how things are conveyed.

I’m running Khan and GLM, so it’s not about being super politically correct as some would think. There should be no hesitation to sacrifice the internet ego for the greater picture.

If there is a new member or newcomer asking questions, it’s absolutely vital for us to be as patient, helpful and neutral as possible

The main discussion threads are extremely important, because this is where newcomers go to get information about products. We can’t flood them with nonsense.

Subliminal Club has to start expanding more. It’s just too important, especially with super positive subliminals like the recently released Chosen: The Way of Nature.

People like to complain about the world and we all know that most people’s lives would change if they used ZP. It starts with expansion and we are a key part in that.

It’s no longer about us anymore… ZP is here and we are well into it experiencing crazy transformations.
The results are inevitable for us and we’re all set. Because we’re getting all the benefits. The very least we can do is be conducive to expansion.

In my opinion, we have to change the way we talk, change the way we write and refrain from posting nonsensical shit (make the forum cleaner). Maybe I’m ahead of myself but yeah, this is all my opinion.

I have made some detrimental shit. Even posts I made that have 25+ likes or whatever might seem “cool” here or to the people here, but for the simple minded onlooker who is new to subliminals their reaction is “what the f***” followed by abruptly closing the tab, concluding that the forum isn’t for them.

So yeah, if anyone is reading this. Just be mindful of the bigger picture from here on out, that’s all.

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I’m in it for the long run and not necessarily for scoring women. I was interested if @Luther24 discussion on Personality → Social Fluidity → Escalation → Seduction → Technique would benefit indirectly from the stack.

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Well thanks mhen

At first I couldn’t tell if you were playin’ with me as a due give back for me bothering you a few times lol
I woudn’t say that I’m proud but I’m glad I had the opportunity to understand better where those thought of yours are coming from with this last post of yours and this notion of PG-13

Seing through that lense your move make a lot of sense
I wouldn’t know where to stand if I presented this forum ahahah I’m proud of being part of it yet it has come only after many years of digging (almost as soon as I had access to internet on my own so almost half my life) so my mind was already ready for that type of informations and interactions, so yeah presenting it to someone completly unaware that anything is possible really is not the easiest thing, especially if we aim at integrating a new member with interactions…

Anyway even If I’m having some “friction” discussion with you from time to time, I’ve always enjoyed reading your repports or other more profound post and found great motivation within them to stand still with my stack to acheive results I crave

You’re inspirationnal and I’m not afraid to tell you that I’ve learned through you, so whatever end decision you take
I’ll always be glad to read from you

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From my experience running Emperor + Stark.

It absolutely destroys your libido and desire for female interactions.

Granted WANTED definitely helped that aspect be nullified.

Basically I just think there are much better titles for female seduction than Emperor + Stark.

Personally I’d run either Emperor OR Stark + Primal OR Primal Seduction + WANTED

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R E C O N C I L I A T I O N

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You think it’s reconiliation?

I was wondering if it’s just a realignment of what’s important now vs what’s important later.

Since core focus isn’t sexual in Emperor or Stark.

The Personality is more than covered on Emperor + Stark + Wanted.

You’ll unlock your masculinity and dominance while exuding a powerful aura of sexiness. That combined with the insane personal magnetism from Stark should make you very attractive to women, simply through your congruent personality. You’ll also have the aura of tantalizing mystery from Wanted and the improved physical looks.

Social Fluidity is there too, especially with Stark. The ability to persuade and charm others while having reality bending confidence is going to translate socially. The Stark halo effect automatically makes everything you do socially more receptive. The increased intelligence should boost EQ as well so that you can social calibrate better and read social cues. The leadership traits of Emperor and Stark should automatically make you have high social IQ. You will navigate conversations effortlessly is in the description for Stark.

Social Fluidity is mainly about how capable you are socially. It’s about social calibration and smoothness. Not being awkward and not having social anxiety. It’s not necessarily extraversion but more like social confidence, IQ and but just being socially adequate in general. I’d say it’s covered by Emperor + Stark.

Escalation is a toss up with your stack and it’s the most dependent on the individual.

With Emperor + Stark + Wanted, you’re going to no doubt receive a lot of attention and attraction from women. If they approach you, then Escalation doesn’t really matter. If they aren’t approaching you but showing immense attraction, then all you need is the confidence or lack of fear to take advantage of that.

Getting over approach anxiety and the fear of rejection may or may not be addressed. The best subliminal to really zap those things as fast as possible in my opinion, is Primal.

Emperor does mention Seduction in the objectives but it’s very basic:

Improve and enhance your seduction and sexual skills — perform better in bed, improved sexual stamina, overcome premature ejaculation.

You also have the hot and cold seduction of Wanted ZP.

So to sum it up:
Personality and Social Fluidity are definitely covered.
Escalation is a toss up.
Seduction is there but not crazy. Probably suitable for your needs.

The main thing lacking is Technique, but one doesn’t really need technique in order to have an abundant romantic life. Technique is like the comprehensive version of Seduction. Everything is precise, advanced and understand on broad level. That’s why it’s last in the continuum. It’s for the serious seducers that really want mastery. You’d have to run S&S or P&S to really learn that, in my opinion.

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Excellent…Excellent…Excellent reply @Luther24. You have a great gift for explaining things! Don’t ever stop posting. LOL.

The goal of my SEW stack is to redefine my frame and greatly improve my social game. I call it the building blocks for bigger and better things. That is why I am committing a minimum 6 months to this stack.

So, if I am able to mold my Personality and Social Fluidity with this stack, I will be exactly where I want to be. In time, I can incorporate PSS, Libertine, and Diamond, etc. to reach the outer end of the continuum.

I’m going through them in order as recommended lol

Going to run my stack for the next 3 months and come back with a summary.
I have a custom idea in the works that I might pull the trigger on within the next 1-2 months.

Long live SubClub! :point_up:

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RIP this journal… cant wait for the ressurection

You running anything else besides Khan?

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libertine power can corrupt lol

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I have 2.5 months to plan out a custom.
It’s going to be a WANTED custom and I think I have all the modules and everything figured out.
I’m pretty set, but I think I’m going to wait a bit and see if my intuitions change anything.

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Share with us your custom idea.

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In a bit lol

Friend, not everyone is at your stage.
Some just started, or started a few weeks ago.

Reading these results keeps them being on the subs.

Sure, shiny object syndrome is a thing, and I am VERY guilty of switching subs all the time, but maybe this is a learning phase we all need to go through. People told me all the time to stick to a sub. Only when I was in SHIT recon after listening to 5 subs in 2 weeks, I was like “Bruv, maybe you should stop trying to circumvent recommendations.”

Some lessons need to be learned the hard way.

It was actually YOU who got me to run a foundational sub (GLM) for months which brought me insane results.
Yes, technically I did switch because of you, but it was INSANELY helpful. Because this has had INSANE deep changes so far, to focus on the foundation.
Your insights changed a lot of thoughts of mine about the subs, how to run them, what to focus on, etc. So it DOES help.

But maybe I am already too far ahead also, idk. Just my thoughts.

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