Love - Let's Talk About It

So, @NatureDad had a grand idea. An idea for a new multi-stager.

I heartily agree with the idea.

We have Love Bomb. We have Love Bomb for Humanity. We have several modules on the Q-Store that cover an aspect of love. Then, there is Heartsong, for the relationship aspect of things.

I could go pretty far with linking a certain aspect of love to just about any title, but that’s not the point of this post.

It seems an auspicious time for a love multi-stager, given the fact that Love Bomb has been such a success for those of us who have used it and as it has done so well that I believe one of the Bois has said that they’ll be using some aspect of LB for the primer in future title releases, going forward (I could be mistaken.)

Regardless, I would like to go ahead and submit a road map request for a multi-stager surrounding Love.

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However, before I do, I would like the input of the community in this.

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Baby, don’t hurt me…

What would YOU like to see in such a title?

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@Tobyone you come to mind as someone that may have some input.

@Malkuth I don’t think I need to explain myself.

@ksub you’re pretty active on the LB Disc Thread, what say ye?

@Trader get over here.

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I wasn’t summoned but I approve of the message

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Don’t hurt me…no more

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We’re talking Heartsong-style “love”? Or something else?

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@Uber_Elysium I tagged the first ones to come to mind but…

Your summons can be found herein!

All input is welcome :smiley:

Yes and yes.

There is the love for life, the love for music, the love for the arts, the love of nature.

Some find their love in what others would call fiction. Some have a love for history.

There’s the love for others and the love of self and oh so much more. Seemingly mutually exclusive but only seemingly.

Love is love. Love is wonder. Love is grace. Love is beauty.

We don’t have a relationship focused MS just yet (might have to consider an Inner Circle style request, too) so while I would really love a Heartsong type of MS, I’m thinking more general ‘love’.

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Honestly I would love (see what i did there) for a multi stage. Love Bomb has recently given me a hard lesson in gratitude. I have been a very ungrateful person for a long time and with me wanting a better job. Earlier today I realized that the current job while it isn’t helping me hit my financial goals like I would like it too, it does give me plenty of time to improve other aspects in my life, and yet I was so fixated and frustrated with one aspect. I am now making plans to make said improvements in the other aspects.

Lesson learned is that I should be more gracious for what I do have and work with what I got, plus I believe self love and gratitude does have a way of adding rocket fuel to progression in life

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Gratitude is very, very crucial. I agree, it can certainly be a game-changer.

I find that when I’m in a mode of simple gratitude, things that might normally annoy me or stress me out simply don’t get to me.

Gratitude is also a powerful state of manifestion. It’s amazing what a simple practice of noting things, even small ones, that I’m grateful for makes me more receptive to receiving the things that I’ve needed.

It’s hard to shake a person that is in a state of true gratitude.

For me, Love Bomb has really helped with truly forgiving other people. It was one of the first things that I noted about it. I’ve been running it since the day or the day after it came out and I believe it’s in the background now, doing the deeper, less noticeable work.

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I noticed in the early days of LB that stuff seemed to manifest faster. Didn’t really dive in deep on that.

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so,how are we gonna approach it ?multi stage ?the st1 being the foundation ,healing ,and self oriented…st2 being the expansion,spreading and towards others and areas…what about st 3?what is the focus ? :upside_down_face: :upside_down_face:

I have always envisioned a very powerful Chosen multistager, combining Chosen, CWON, CFW, and Love Bomb

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That is a fabulous idea. Strength, truth, and gratitude, wrapped over with love.

I’d buy that one. Like an ASBR for relationships.

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Hello, I’m up, damn my comment inspired a whole post? Awesome!

Honestly, either a love multistage or a Heartsong Black will so just incredible.

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Love is one of the basic principles in life and permeates every dimension of our being and relationships.
It starts in us and our relationship to our selfs, our body, our sexuality, affectes every relationship we have, be it a human, animal, plant, thing and even concept.

But would a love multistager need to be that all-encompassing?

I’d guess, if stage 1 is the typical healing and preparation stage, it should tackle all traumatic experiences connected to love. This would make it a very broad and possibly long and dense stage.

It would need a parts of

  • Lineage
    Many suffer from subpar parents, ranging from being absent to abuse and violence. And as a result this basic sense of trust is missing, that is usually created through experiencing love from your parents.

  • KB1
    For any wounds related to sexuality. Be it porn abuse, being ridiculed for a small dick in common shower areas, ED, PME, possibly even getting abused

  • Heartsong
    For anything relationship related

  • EoG1
    If you despise money because of your upbringing. Not sure if this would need to be here

  • Primal/ Seductress
    Since many grow up without proper role models for their sex, they are out of touch with their masculine or feminine core or even reject it because they have a distorted view (eg toxic masculinity) what it means to be a real man/woman.

Furthermore, it would need to tackle

  • Bullying, be it at school, at work, or wherever

  • spiritual wounds (like from cults or cultish structures in religions be it parishes, ashrams or whatever)

  • Rejection of the own body (like BDLM makes you content with your size.


And this just what I came up with during a short brainstorming. Possibly even TB could help.

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With love. :joy:

An excellent question.

Would it be similar to most multis or more like an Emperor Fitness? :thinking: I’m not sure how the Bois might tackle this one but I’m sure it would be handled by top men.

A leadership MS would be pretty titular!

Everything that is started with someone having an idea :pray:t4:

A worthy question. I don’t know how things are approached in the SC lab but maybe, with how ZP works, it wouldn’t necessarily need to have all of the things as a focus, but could be consciously guided to encompass what the user needed :slight_smile:

I am inclined to agree. Considering Khan Black ST1 and the way it handles sexual healing, there could be a similar approach in a love multistager.

And broadened to cultural, societal and peer-based traumas. I did consider Lineage: Mandate Eternal as I was musing before making the OP.

At first I thought, “KB covers this” but upon further consideration, I think this would be a beneficial addition.

Khan Black is majorly focused on releasing blockages and traumas energetically that are preventing the optimal flow of sexual/creative energy.

The way I see it, what you bring up would be awesome and would flow into our relationship with our body, our sense of identity, our worldview and thus, relationship with the world around us and other people.

Indubitably.

I also considered the money aspect of things. A lot of us are programmed to hate, despise or be jealous of people with money and have a bad relationship with money. I’ve seen older posts where Saint has talked about similar things.

Good point!

Yessuh yessuh!!

Very nice, you make good points :slight_smile: thanks for chiming in my friend.

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True, I feel my comments often go above people’s heads, nice getting some recognition :slight_smile:

I think if we ever get a love multistage it’ll have to be extremely versatile in terms if self love and healing

as opposed to a Heartsong Black which could possibly be an unchained type of love, as I like to call it, Wounded Healer, not just heal yourself and find a perfect match, but be able to penetrate someone’s heart on such a deep level, that you take on their problems too, share the burden and heal them yourself.

That’s pretty much me in a nutshell, honestly I’d be happier for a Heartsong black than anything else (and a Khan Black update)

Another option for Heartsong Black would be to amplify it and mix it with Divine Diamond

I see the value of what you’re saying but most aren’t equipped to be able to have that sort of ability.

You’re talking about a level of empathy that, without proper training and guidance, can lead to a whole host of issues for the would-be healer.

I enjoy and resonate with the idea certainly as I’m similar in my own dealings with people but, through experience, I’ve learned to be very discerning in this.

Why would you want to take on someone else’s problem? It’s their responsibility to deal with their own burden. Not yours. That sounds like a “white knight in a shiny armor” or some savior complex to me. It’s not your responsibility to heal broken people. Actually you should even avoid getting in relationship with them. It rarely ends well. Why not just find someone who is mentally and emotionally ready?:joy:

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I do not sugarcoat things and I’m not a nice person, wanting to help others isn’t a bad thing and everyone has their own issues, simple as, if you want to see it as white knighting go ahead, but you’d be lucky to find someone who truly gives a fuck about you even when you’re not emotionally/mentally well and ready.

Good luck finding them, just want to point out we are all people online using subliminal products meant to alter our mental and/or physical perception/reality, we’re not perfect either.

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