I didn’t do everything I was supposed to do.
From a straightforward, grounded point of view, I would say that you, for example, have taken much more effective, focused, and relevant action than I (relative to Ecstasy of Gold).
My personal journey has involved understanding, accepting, and working with the reasons for that.
But this is just a side note.
The main point of your post (re: Mogul, etc.) still stands.
What are your objectives for the next 3-6 months welath wise? career / ideation of new business / scaling existing business / trading?
you first need to have an objective and pick the sub that can help the most with that objective, not rhe other way around: run a wealth sub and see what happens.
This is great, lol.
What were the various reasons for why you ended up sinking into a deep depression for 2-3 months? That’s a big jump from seemingly out of nowhere. If you explained those reasons, you would get much better advice.
When you rolled the dice in the restaurant and knew it was going to be a 6, you mentioned that you had no anxiety or attachment to the outcome. This is why it worked. Take this micro-concept that you experienced during those 3 weeks, and start applying that on a macro level (your financial situation at large). You attract what you embody and resonate at internally on a subconscious level. If you are embodying and giving off vibes of lack, desperation, attachment to outcome (from perceived financial scarcity), and fear, then nothing will change. During those 3 weeks, you embodied a different vibe with the assistance of subliminals (tools) and it was as if you were blessed by the goddess of luck.
Iv seen some people say that playing wealth subs initally gave them a negative experience with wealth dont know why and not saying they will for everyone and that everyone will experience them but just intteresting to note
Firstly, thank you for your reply!
The whole depression thing was indeed a big jump from out of nowhere, and to be honest, I’m still processing it and slowly unpacking the reasons behind it.
Ok, so things I’ve already figured out:
I think for anyone, moving house can be very disruptive. When it’s suddenly forced upon someone without prior notice, even more so. Add in the autism factor, which led to a feeling of paralysis where I just could not get anything done for ages. And when I did move, I just didn’t go out or explore the area for the first few weeks, nor finish unpacking and so on.
And just prior to the sudden news that I’d have to move out, I had been in the process of starting an online business. Again, due to my severe demand avoidant tendencies (another autism trait I believe, although there will be other factors too), I took ages to get started and gain any kind of momentum and traction.
But I finally did get started, and was making progress, getting all the ‘infrastructure’ set up.
I found a virtual assistant who was great.
I started going to the cafe I mentioned, a pretty high class place, and I felt so ‘in the zone’ and a relatively abundant mindset at the time.
So I’d finally just gotten going and was making progress. I had a business coach who promised a lot but turned out to be a bit disappointing in some ways and I felt quite unsupported.
Feeling frustrated with this, and wanting to push forward and start actually making money, I’d stumbled across a course (also providing help for starting an online affiliate marketing business) which looked fantastic and caught my eye because a chief component part of the course was called the "Ascension’ phase! 
So it seemed like great serendipity, the price was very reasonable, and I signed up.
But the course creator - having promised a thriving community and lots of support - turned out to be completely disengaged and the ‘thriving community’ an echo chamber of a few people just asking ‘why don’t the trainers ever respond to my questions?’.
So I was wrestling with all this, and then the news came that I had 2 months to move out.
Right at the point where I’d plowed savings into paying for my online business coach and business startup costs.
And I guess it was a harsh reminder of the precariousness of my financial situation and a wake-up call of the fact that I was very much not (yet) financially free, where such a situation would not be much of a setback at all. And the online business stuff just ground to a halt.
Also a feeling that I had a lack of agency, a lack of ability (financially and power-wise) to control my own life and situation. Very frustrating and disempowering.
I think much of that is simply perception and ‘learned helplessness’, which I am determined to obliterate!
So here I am. Finally looking to re-start the online business stuff - which I still believe is the best path for me to achieve financial freedom, given my health conditions (CFS/ME, autism and whatnot).
My business coach has started a new programme, which is a small group programme, much more supportive and where they actually build the websites and infrastructure (a kind of ‘done for you’ solution) that we agreed is much more appropriate for my needs and current situation. So I’m being switched over to that (with no extra charge). Just waiting to hear when it will start, and feeling cautiously optimistic now.
Sorry for the very slow reply, and thank you for the question!
I’ve answered it to some extent in the post I just made above, but to go deeper:
I want to achieve financial freedom, and my goal is to do that within 12 months.
With online affiliate marketing, I think there’s plenty of evidence that this is actually an achievable goal, and having paid for a business coach who’s demonstrably trained many to do exactly this, I think if I work hard and smart, it can be done.
Having said that, the main goal is consistent action and becoming the kind of person who can achieve financial freedom; so I’ve set myself an ambitious (but at least possible) goal for motivation and so on, but I’m ready to walk the path diligently too.
A secondary thing (more as a hobby at first) is to improve as a trader.
I do crypto investing with a bit of trading, but I’ve been feeling lately that I want to go deeper into trading, mainly spot, but with a bit of futures trading in a separate account.
I feel it’s something I could be good at. I subscribe to the Financial Times and read it every day, I have started reading trading books and I guess my point is, it doesn’t feel like a ‘job’, in that I kind of would just do it anyway out of a love for it and a big interest in it.
And that in itself tells me that it’s probably a path worth pursuing further.
First priority is the affiliate marketing online business, targeting automatic/repeating/passive income as much as possible for financial freedom.
Trading (and investing) will fit around that (and with the appropriate strategies, doesn’t require that much in terms of time demands) and be an alternative income stream, as well as simply being a skill I want to master.
Finally, a good friend has recently asked me to join him doing property consulting for high net worth (HNW) clients, of which he has a great deal of contacts.
It’s a very simple business model (essentially just being middlemen, connecting HNW people with a property to sell with other HNW people looking to buy) - but potentially very lucrative and with fantastic networking opportunities.
This friend also has similar health issues to me, so we’re both agreed on a business model that just requires a few hours work a month. Just like one deal a month to start with, and always fitting it around our health and main goals.
I’ve been recently drawn to Daredevil: True Social because of this, and also because I’ve recently relocated, and am starting to feel drawn to socialising and networking more (and I live in an area with a lot of wealthy/successful/interesting people).
So I’d thought about running Daredevil: True Social in a custom with a wealth sub, for this and various other reasons.
Regarding which Wealth sub to choose, that’s something I’m finding a bit tricky.
I’ve run RICH and gotten good results from it, as mentioned above, although they later dried up.
With RICH Crypto, there’s been absolutely zero results (and I have been taking action and trying to regain my positive mindset). Ditto Sanguine: The Elixir and Genesis: Mogul.
Maybe this was down to the depression though?
However, I’ve noticed recently that with my current stack, I do seem to be getting clear results with all the subs that feature the new Anti-Recon tech.
I really only chose RICH Crypto (rather that RICH) with the idea that I could cheaply change the custom to use RICH Trader when that gets released, plus the fact I am also interested in trading lol).
But if my primary goal is to get the online affiliate marketing business up, running and profitable (and then very very profitable), then running a Sub that just specialises in trading alone seems unwise.
Having said that though, to my knowledge, it’s the only wealth sub that’s scheduled for an Anti-Recon update in the near future, and I’d strongly prefer such a sub as I just seem to be getting clear results with those.
What I’d love is an updated Ascended Mogul, or even Genesis: Mogul (where I add in modules from EoG etc).
Anyway, this is another very lengthy reply, so thanks to anyone who plows through it all and responds
The mind is functioning clearly, consciousness is expanding, and so you become aware of outcomes you couldn’t see before. Outcomes that in the past may have felt “wrong” becomes “right” because you can accurately calculate potential positive outcomes.
The subtle shift in decision making leads to a feeling of being “luckier,” since the world seems to be getting out of your way. But again, it is the individual themselves who are creating these circumstances, and with RoM, the mechanism of action is “clear thought.”
The sub isn’t “giving” them anything, it is the individual’s reaction to the script. Negativity can be expected when you’re battling a deeply ingrained mental pattern. If you’re already negative about a topic, and then a person starts telling you to be positive, most people’s natural response is a negative immediate reaction.
If the individual can recognize this, contain the emotions and proceed through with action, it is transformed into a positive experience. All results are results, and there’s a reason why you have them. The one who masters the self is the one who understands this and instead of projecting outward, goes within to neutralize the root cause.
Hey @Jouissance, thank you too for such a considered and helpful response.
Given that I’ve just written two essay length replies to other questions - and need to go and eat! - I’ll keep this response brief for now.
It’s so much easier, seductive and more attractive to manifest wealth and success, rather than working like a dog for it. So for sure, that’s been a factor in my choices and approach, and for sure, there needs to be more foundational work at becoming the kind of person who can, as you said, bend reality to my will at my choosing.
Emperor, since i joined sub club and started reading about the subs, has always been the sub (aside from Paragon Complete) that I envisage myself running long-term.
But I have been conscious of the need to build suitable foundations first, and I don’t believe I’m realistically there yet.
I had been thinking to run either GLM or the new Ascension in a custom (depending on how it looks like when it’s announced; I can then think about which would be most appropriate, or even just run both in the same custom lol).
Alongside whatever my wealth/social custom turns out to be, plus building a habit of consistent action-taking and getting the online business up and running, I think these will be appropriate foundations to start running Emperor, and hit the ground running when I do so.
And of course, that gives time for them to update it with Anti-Recon and make it even more amazing, haha 
@SaintSovereign Welcome to my humble thread
I appreciate you may lack the time or inclination to read my lengthy posts here due to being very busy with creating subs of awesomeness, but if you have the time at any point, your input on my questions/situation would of course be greatly welcome
Could you direct me toward the ones you need answered?
Thanks @SaintSovereign you are a scholar and a gentleman
I’ve written a bunch of very long posts here, explaining the background and then answering subsequent helpful questions from other readers.
I’m happy to provide links to my other posts if you want, but given how busy you doubtless are, I’ll just direct you to this one, which is one of the most recent and summarises my key dilemma over which 2 subs to chose for a custom:
https://www.subliminalresults.com/t/lost-my-mojo-zero-results-on-wealth-sub-advice/26362/32?u=layman
And if you do have time/mood to read more, there’s the first two posts, by me, at the very top of this thread (thus easy to find!), which provide all the background and a second question concerning manifestation and abundance mindset, which I’ve been wrestling with for months (wrestling with the question I mean lol. And actually, wrestling with the abundance mindset too, haha).
Can you be specific as to what exactly you would like to have happen to accumulate wealth, opposed to just calling it “manifesting?”
Not judging, just trying to understand
Hello again!
Well, the line you quoted was kind of a tongue-in-cheek comment about how it’s so easy to want and hope for easy and effortless results that just fall into one’s lap
I suppose I wanted and hoped for that (and got it, to some extent previously), but I am saying that I"m aware that I need more personal growth and development in this area, such that I become the kind of person who can achieve the kind of life I dream of.
With regards to manifesting, there’s two aspects to what I wish I could manifest.
One is just serendipitous fortune, where a crypto investment skyrockets, or I win the lottery, or do affiliate marketing for a product that ultimately sells bucketloads of units, or meet someone by chance who can open doors for me, or mentor me, or give me opportunities etc.
As I said, all of this is just kind of ‘dreaming’ manifestation and I think I also need to work on taking action towards my goals consistently and ‘becoming’ who I want to be; although I would note that I do believe all of those things I mentioned in the previous paragraph are absolutely possible to be manifested.
Finally, as I’d mentioned previously, I’ve had two periods in my life, each lasting roughly about a month or so, where I managed to slip into a kind of ‘abundance manifesting’ mindset.
At those times, serendipity, ‘luck’, chance meetings, small financial windfalls and so on just seemed to flow effortlessly, and not only that, I felt just generally so happy and positive and confident that success and prosperity would come to me, even more so if I continued taking action consistently as well as maintaining the mindset.
But both times, the feeling vanished after a while. And having experienced that mindset and the manifestations that accompanied it, and - equally or more importantly - the happiness, peace and joy that accompanied it, I want it back, and I want it to stay (or at least be my natural state the majority of the time), but I feel unsure how to do that (and by extension, which sub or subs in a custom would best help me to do that).
@SaintSovereign I’m going to copy you into this as well, as this is the other key question I’m struggling with!
I imagine that you (@Jouissance ), or someone else, might follow up with the question "well what did you do that caused you to slip into that ‘abundant manifesting’ mindset in the first place?
Well, the first time was when I read ‘You Are A Badass’ by Jen Sincero for the 2nd time.
Bear in mind I’ve studied and practised life coaching/self improvement for a very long time, and so such books as these are hardly new to me.
But for some reason, this book at that time just really impacted me.
There were some chapters about letting go of limiting beliefs, about self-love and self-forgiveness (and loving and forgiving others), plus stuff on manifesting, the whole ‘the universe loves you and will give you whatever you need if you are at the right energy/frequency to receive it’ stuff, etc.
As I mentioned, heard most of it before, but at that time, something just seemed to click, and I felt as if a huge weight - that I wasn’t even aware of carrying all my life - just dropped away.
I felt so light and free, so positive, and I think at that time I truly believed that I could and would receive what I needed and desired. And good Lord, I want that feeling back, so much!
Can’t remember what subsequently pushed me out of that mindset and feeling.
But I’ve tried to re-read the book 2 or 3 times since, and just felt flat and got nothing from it.
Strange and frustrating.
And the second time was after joining a life coaching/self improvement programme with a former special forces soldier, discovering SubClub and running Paragon, Dragon Reborn: Limit Destroyer and RICH.
Started taking quite a bit of action on self-improvement (which also is what I’m doing recently again)
Shortly after, I found my online business coach, started working hard daily on building an online business and started manifesting a lot of small successes, wins, and serendipitous meetings or discoveries etc.
Until my landlord gave me 2 month’s notice to move out, totally out of the blue after 10 years, and it all came crashing down and I sank into an unexpected and deep depression that I’ve only recently emerged from.
So that’s the background everyone, lol
If you’re thinking I think it’s bad to be in an “abundant positive manifestation mindset” with wealth then you obviously don’t know my history with wealth subs.
But also doesn’t seem like you know how you want to manifest wealth. Think And Grow Rich is all about positive abundant manifestation. But it’s also about having a plan and having everything line up perfectly so your plan is a success - and making a plan you’d truly want to follow.
You were looking for subs to address your wealth blocks - based on this combo I’d say mind’s eye will help enhance your manifestation skills and the “visualize your goals + step by step plan to achieve them” scripting will be helpful.
I also think Emperor isn’t something your should shy away from. You have more than enough of a foundation already. Sounds like you’re just procrastinating your wealth success and saying you’re not ready for the period of doing the work
Emperor will help with that and help with wealth foundations and help you synthesize the seemingly disparate beliefs of “manifesting without working like a dog”
You’re the only one here equating “work” with “negativity”
However if you really don’t feel ready for emperor for some reason then the art of war would also help you build those foundations, make a plan, and strategize/execute on that plan.
Are you open minded to doing some personal exploration to the possibility that this could be a remnant of your scarcity/poverty mindset acting as if it’s a higher-self mindset?
Just be open minded to explore how much of it is or isn’t.
It’s not 100% a poverty mindset but it’s also not a 0% poverty mindset.
Journaling privately and exploring the ways in which you feel your limitations as a wealth generating individual require you to win the lottery would be helpful.
Wealthy individuals don’t ever think about the lottery. People “win the lottery” by working with them because they provide so much value.
In that way, they’re not even working like a dog, because they love being good at what they do, people value and respect them, and they’ve built a life in line with what they want - trading something someone else finds valuable in exchange for a lifestyle they find valuable.
“Small/flowing manifestations” also would not phase a wealthy person. Who cares about random 5k windfalls here and there compared to a consistent and life-enriching 180k/yr
If I try to unpack my previous posts a bit more, I suppose there’s two sides to the whole manifesting for me.
One side is about the feeling of positivity, enjoyment of life, joy, peace, security and so on that I experienced whilst being in that special ‘abundance mindset’ state (or whatever state it was).
Another side is that, whilst it feels good to regularly manifest small wins, chance meetings and so on, this in itself is not any kind of wealth strategy and, I feel, should not be relied upon or taken for granted.
Or maybe it should be taken for granted? Perhaps that’s the whole abundant manifesting mindset lol.
And yet another serious factor here is that I think I in fact have a scarcity mindset.
I grew up in a poor family with an abusive father and I’ve carried around a scarcity and poverty mindset, that to this day still plagues me, despite all my growth.
I think you picked up on this in some of your astute observations of my responses.
So for me, my ‘abundant manifesting’ mindset question I suppose boils down to two questions:
How to get back (and retain) that feeling I had, that felt like an abundant manifesting mindset and filled me with positivity (instead of my default negativity), joy, happiness, feeling of purpose, feeling of flow state, of being in the zone, of serendipity, security and peace and lightness (I appreciate that’s a lot of things, some quite different from the others).
And how to overcome scarcity/poverty mindset, get out of my own way, stop thinking too small, stop self-sabotage and allow myself to think and plan my strategies with the mindset of a truly wealthy individual?
Regarding work, I think in that area too, the scarcity mindset has had an insidious influence.
I spent most of my life doing jobs I (mostly) hated, to be able to pay the bills.
Then later when I got CFS/ME, working wasn’t even an option anymore, certainly not in a regular job.
I enjoy trading because it feels like I’m doing something I enjoy, rather than ‘work’ as such (although I’m conscious of the need to very much approach it in a disciplined and professional manner).
I’ve done some work in property/real estate before, and am very much looking forward to working with my friend on HNW buying and selling of high-end properties and the kinds of connections I would be introduced to (and the fact I get to do this with a friend who has very similar values to me and cares about integrity in business).
I’m drawn long-term (to the idea at least) of deal making in property or finance. And soft power and connections. House of Medici stuff
Ditto investing.
But I also love writing and music (and would like to learn to be a singer-songwriter).
And I’ve studied and practised life coaching/self development and helped plenty of people (even helping them to change their lives and achieve their dreams) for free, but never professionally (scarcity mindset again there methinks, lol).
And affiliate marketing online is something I find interesting and would be a useful skillset to have, especially if/when I start developing my own products (e.g. eBooks, online courses etc for self-improvement and so on).
Just kind of writing out my thoughts as they occur here. So there you all go lol.