too late hahahhahah i learned the kinda kinda tough way
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It’s never too late until you’re dead.
I think you are at an advantage now. You KNOW what “too much” feels like! Start with one loop a day. Increase by one loop per day until you feel like that again. Then drop down one and enjoy knowing your sweet spot
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true that
sounds like a good idea maybe ill run one loop tonight and one in the middle of the day and test how things go (my ego is killing me with more is better)
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@Budewr, sometimes I still do this myself. I’ve been here since late 2018, and yep…me too.
I’ve been thinking of one financial guru who says “we learn the most when we fail”. Maturity takes time. LDU and Elixer allow me to accept myself even when I fail. LDU is one of my staples in the healing line of subs.
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wow 2018 you must had huge life jumps with subs
true if someone doesnt make mistakes theyre not learing rule of thumb
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Huge life jumps…yeah. They’re huge to me.
I’m on Dragon Reborn (been on it since around November of last year), and today I had the same thoughts come up in my head again and again, courtesy of DR (and haven’t listened to it since last Saturday). In short, I am exactly where I am since I’ve been using an old unhelpful choice…to avoid relational ties in my life. Just like with other critical issues in my life, DR will have these truths recirculate in my mind over and over again. It’s like an inner mentor for me, pointing out what I’d grown accustomed to avoiding. And they lose their fear the more I reach out and touch them. I took responsibility for myself–and also cared about a coworker I worked with today. It felt good, but new to me. It’s usually me OR them, all or nothing, black or white, no mingling together. More is sure to come.
And that…that is HUGE for me. I used other subs from other producers, and NEVER have I had these issues pop up on them. Never. DR has some gold in it. Real value. I even shed some tears while writing this; DR is still executing–after 8 days off.
Them rest days are priceless.
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Hey @Budewr, I just re-read this. I own an android, not an iphone, but what I and others have done when unsure about something is make a new post in the Questions thread. I’ve asked simple questions, some not so simple, and you’ll get a LOT of answers to how to handle something.
For you, I’m positive there are free apps for iphones that’ll allow this. Those questions pop up frequently. You could also use the search feature there with “iphone”.
thank you man i will search!
cheers
What are your current results, mate?
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so this week 2 ive been running 1 loop of each everynight
my current stack is Stark And LDU
huge changes im very grateful 
1- less fears a lot less fears, when i used to feel fear it was sooo dense like such a big chunk, it would overload my heart and my heart will bump so fast
now i dont feel like that at all, i feel like a mild of a fear, its like its not as dense as before
i also felt more free about talking and expressing and not having this fear about what others think about me, im slowly shattering all the limits within
fear which is the emotion that i feel mostly when things like these happens or regular stuff in life, its shattering its loosing its power
i used to be afraid a lot of monsters cause of my childhood trauma but now im even more looose even though i already healed this trauma but it slowly comes back between time and time
also im seeing some changes with my stomach capacity slight change, my stomach is 20% now i feel its more stretching and i can eat more, just slightly not that huge of a change which is understandable phsyical changes takes time, but its one of my goals also with limit destroyer
and limit destroyer helped me so much maybe stark helped 2 but for now i can see huge LDU changes
to sum it up: the element of fear has been following me since ever, fearing people and what they think of me, to fearing monsters and darkness, to fearing “no” as an answer from my dad,
but now its slowly loosing its power and strength, i havent done yet proper action but everyday im more dedicated ( i mean the healing part) ( on stark im doing action 
)
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That’s great. I’m on LD journey as well.
Don’t you feel any overload or exhaustion? Any signs of recon?
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i felt exhausted yesterday only just before bed the whole day was fine, at the last 5th day
so im going about it 5 days on, 2 days off
yesterday which is the last day before my rest day i felt some exhaustion and not wanting to do anything,i got this feeling before bed like 2 hours before bed or maybe 2 hours and a half
the rest of the week was fine, i just felt some overload yesterday thats it and also a
a lot to consider here before blaming subs, i usually drink a lot of water and my diet is really healthy but now im going up and down with my diet, so that might be due to not enough water intake or good nutrition,
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thats great
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also my sleep has been pretty not stable sometimes i sleep 5 hours sometimes i sleep 6, sometimes i go to bed at 12 am sometimes at 11pm
not enough water intake and other stuff,
and a lot of dreams i can remember them clearly 
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Please, report on your processing days. 
you mean my rest days? im on day number 1 ill see how it goes
Yes, please, report when you’re ready.
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sure 
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2nd rest day:
nothing new, but i slept a lot about 10 hours, i keep waking up and then i say i could sleep some more, but im okay with that since my body needs rest with all that sub input i dont mind putting a couple more hours
this is now my first week running stark. since last week i ran only LDU then i bought stark at day 5 so now its a week with the stack of stark and LDU
gonna increese one more loop of stark ill go for
1 loop LDU
2 loops of stark
in that order i think LDU can act as a booster as well as a major program
ill want to inceerse more loops down the road but im going slow to see how things go
no headaches nothing atl all, just regular, and this week energy was regular also not too fatiguing like the first week (due to high loops and being new to subs)
ill see how this week goes with 1 more loop of stark. since its most important for me cause i want to find some relationships (loving and supportive friends or a girlfriend ) and also i want more productivity and more on focusing on my studio time with music and also more of that limitless SAUCE
LDU is really doing a good job really good stark since week 1 not so many huge changes like LDU, but again ive been running LDU for 2 weeks and its an ultima so faster results
and stark is Q and ive been running it for about a week, and its script is huge so i dont think fast results will occur , will update soon with the increesed loop
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UPDATE:
yesterday i felt a huge fatigue in the morning was like hell
it was an hour after i woke up then the day was normal after that, i was planning if i face the fatigue and the tiredness again tomorrow i will cut down 1 loop,
today i didnt face anyfatigue, so i guess im gonna keep going for the same loops and ill see how this week goes, and ill make sure that im not stonewalling im trying to note down every result that i see,
i think thats the only thing that i can do about stonewalling since its tricky and ive never faced and im new here