Is this a good stack? R.I.C.H/EoG/Regeneration

Questions and Comments
#1

So I noticed a trend where people usually like to tailor their stacks according to 1 goal. So if your goal is wealth, all 3 in your stack is wealth. If your goal is health, all 3 in your stack are related to health and so on.

What about an “oddball” stack, I am currently running R.I.C.H and EoG. I want to add Regeneration. I struggle with negative thinking and at times will allow the negativity to spiral and get out of control. I have gotten better at it by being mindful of it but at times its still an uphill battle.

I was thinking of adding Regeneration to my stack to help deal with this. My goal is wealth, but I figure that instead of adding a 3rd wealth title, I can get a lot further with something that helps negative thoughts and limiting beliefs. Is this an ok stack or can it backfire on me?

EDIT: Or is limit destroyer a better option? Regen sounds INTENSE. But I am willing to run it if that’s the route I gotta go.

#2

It’s a pretty normal stack.

If you’re worried about Regeneration distracting you too much from your wealth goal, just make sure that the recon doesn’t get too much in the way of your goals.
Use shorter play time & listen to it less frequently until the recon has become manageable.

In my experience, healing subs can even enhance the effect of other subs in their own ways.
So it’s worth the try.

DRLD is better at destroying limits. Regen should be better for what you want.

Personally, LBFH did the job well enough for me. 4 cycles in & there was barely any negative self talk left. I could still feel bad, but that’s limited to feeling, not my thoughts, which helped to stop it and to make it not spiral. Regen/LB should do the job just as well as long as you stick with them long enough.

#3

Interesting.

And quick question: are you now allowed to run the full 15 min when you’re new? I am new and just started RICH and EoG and I did both 15 min back to back.

But I see on the reviews that even the most experienced people sometimes start with 3 min, then 5 min next loop. Are you not allowed to jump in and do the full 15 min if you’re new to the sub?

#4

Is it allowed? Yes.
Is it recommended? Not really.

If you don’t feel any recon, you’d want to keep an eye on the subtle recon/overexposure creep up over time. This is harder to judge if you don’t have a point of reference from using shorter loops.
I learned that the hard way after months of using only 15m when I first started SC.

Some of us use shorter play time even when we can use 15m just fine because we like how light the load is in comparison. Shorter loops also act better & faster for some.

For example, I like using LBFH for only 5 - 9 minutes because if I use more than that, it would distract me too much from my goals.

Try using shorter loops for 2-3 cycles and see how differently you react to the sub. Maybe you find it closer to your sweet spot, or maybe 15m fits you better.
Either way, it will give you better clarity about what to do in the future.

You should start Regen with shorter loops though if you think it’d be tough.

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#5

Ya the thing is I don’t have a point of reference since this is my first go with subliminals. I grabbed RICH and EoG and I ran back to back 15 min loops. But IDK what recon/overexposure feels like.

And when you say cycles, this means 21 day period of listening every other day before taking a 5 day break?

Over on reddit in r/subliminals I see people running the freebie youtube subs with their playlist being 10-30 subs per day and some of them will listen for over an hour or 2 and do report success, but someone explained this as brute forcing your subconscious into submission given enough time. It does seem like taking a longer path if less=more.

I am just having a hard time wrapping my mind around doing a 5 min listening cycle as better than 15.

Should I roll back RICH and EoG to 10 or even 5 min cycles? I know everyone is different but I am just looking for a good starting point while minimizing the trial and error cycle.

#6

You’ll get a better grasp of them in time.
For now, notice if there’s any dip in performance, mood, cognitive ability etc.
It could be recon, could be not. If there’s anything I can say is common with recon, most usually feel “deeper”. Some can be unnoticeably subtle too. You just gotta get enough experience with them.

Yes, broadly.
But we include the rest period in it too.
So 1 cycle is 26 days. Listening every other day for 21 days, and 5 days rest.
If you see others’ schedules, you’ll see some people taking extra prolonged rest in the middle of the 21 days. We still count the whole period as a cycle.

I also felt the same when I started. 15m is already so short compared to what I used to with other subliminal producers. But the more I use subs from SC, the more I understand that even 15m is too long in many cases.

SC’s subs work differently than subs from other producers, let alone subs from youtube.

Trust me, if listening longer is better, we’d have recommended more.
The keyword is sweetspot. if 5m gives you the best result with the least recon, then it is the best length.

Yes.
Then slowly increase the listening time until you hit your sweet spot.
The sweet spot can be a bit harder to judge with wealth titles, but you’ll know when you’ve experienced enough.

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#7

THANKS! I will roll it back to 5 min and go from there.

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#8

if you dont mind, I have 2 more questions

how long do people usually stay on a program like regen? I now EoG is structured for 1 year min to get full benefits, but what about subs like regen?

and this brings me to my next question: after completing regen, do the effects stay when no longer listening to the sub?

#9

I’d start with EOG without RICH/Regen and see what it needs from there.

EOG1 has lots of healing and unblocks pathways to manifestation, so, in a way I see RICH/Regen as just complementary to EOG… and a distraction.

Especially since RICH nor Regen is updated to the newest version. They’re still great titles, but EOG will probably be able to accomplish all 3 titles’ goals on its own.

I would use a title like Emperor alongside EOG to complement it with something not in EOG - drive, confidence, that general alpha stuff.

#10

Also… limit destroyer would be more intense than Regen, but IMO, a better option

#11

thank you for the input

so are you saying that if I run EoG/RICH/Regen, they can clash? Like as in nullify each other?

again sorry for the many basic questions I am less than a week new to this

#12

From my experience with LBFH, DRLD & DRR, at least 4-5 cycles. Preferably 6-9 cycles, It’s better if you stick with it even longer if you need to.

Some changes will stay and some will not.
The longer you stick with the sub, the more & deeper the changes you’ll keep after.
It also depends on the type of changes. Some only require a new point of view, some need long and sustained attention.

Taking action & journaling will help you notice more changes & keep them long after.

Can EoG1 handle this though?:

Also from my experience with DRLD, it did not touch it that much.
Subs that are made to directly deal with that like LBFH are way better at stopping negative thinking right on its track.

With that being said, I’d still follow this advise.
It’s hard to evaluate a sub’s strengths and weaknesses without a clear point of reference.
Isolating 1 sub, and then adding on top of that after you gain more understanding about it, is better in the long run. EoG is a sub that requires a long commitment anyway so there’s nothing to lose.

EoG Stage 2-4 don’t have as much healing as the first stage though, so you don’t have to tip toe around it as much if you want to add a healing sub like Regen later on.

#13

No, I’m saying that as a beginner user to subliminal club products, you probably don’t need to run all three of those titles. Ecstasy of gold has manifestation, which is why you would run rich. And it has healing, which is why you would run regeneration. So I’m just saying I don’t think it’s an effective use of resources to run rich and regeneration. I would recommend that you start with ecstasy of gold, run that for a while, and only add those two titles if you feel like ecstasy of gold is seriously lacking for you in either healing or manifestation… And I highly doubt that you will find ecstasy of gold lacking in either of those areas

So instead of running three titles to do the job that one title can do, I’m saying, you might want to consider stacking ecstasy of gold with a title that adds unique value. Rich and regeneration won’t nullify anything, but there are titles that might enhance the effect more than them. Like emperor, or limitless, executive, or mind’s eye, or the revelation of wealth, or even something totally unrelated like paragon sleep, which will give you way more energy, or something else that hits a non-money purpose

Look into revelation of wealth if you want another wealth title though. That would be a really good stack, the founders are recommending ecstasy of gold and the revelation of wealth together right now, they were released at the same time a few weeks ago.

#14

What do you mean?

Also, you’re right about the fact that the later stages of ecstasy of gold don’t have nearly as much healing… But he should definitely start with a long run of stage one

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#15

This.
Will the healing from EoG1 help with this or not?

It might be worth spending time with Regen/LB/LBFH first for a few cycles if EoG1 couldn’t.
The ROI of getting this handled by the healing subs that specialize in this first might be worth the short deviation from EoG1 if they choose to separate the two.

#16

Ahh ok I get what you’re saying. So EoG has has ST1-ST4. You’re saying ST1 has all the benefits of RICH and Regen?
I will look into Revelation of Wealth, but in a nutshell does it also remove blocks but using a different mechanism than EoG?

#17

EOG will help with this immensely

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#18

I was thinking DRLD would help with this in conjunction with EOG1 because EOG1 helps with this.

But again EOG1 is complete in itself - u don’t even need to add DRLD unless you run EOG1 for a while and feel blocked still after a few cycles

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#19

No, but you will get the same type of results that you’re looking for just from EOG1 at this stage.

If you were an advanced user that had already been running wealth subs for some time, I would give a different answer. But you just need to start with EOG1 and go from there - add whatever sub addresses you feel like the weakness/incompleteness of your stack is after a cycle. You need to EXPERIENCE that and then REACT to that with a complementary sub - it’s not something u can predict or plan for

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#20

How long do you suggest running EoG1 before adding anything else