Is there info about how to avoid wrong belifes and info to the sub mind?

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#1

hi. since sub club figuired how to dissolve wrong belifes that dont serve humans who wants to transcend into a better reality and they succeded,

does anyone here have a link maybe, or a thread here that explains how the sub-concious works?

in terms of how to avoid bad belifes to enter your sub-concious, how can toxic music effect your submind
(bad lyrics with cursing and talking about drugs and denigration of women [moderator edit: language] 24/7)

how can tv literaly brainwash you without you knowing or music or anything, since your not aware at all, so they can simply throw anything at you and you will eat it like a cake your submind likes to eat everything that is thrown at it

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#2

Simple… Avoid crap like that, then it won’t get into your mind.

p.s. hoes are great… shovels too. Very useful. :upside_down_face:

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#3

i already do that:joy::cowboy_hat_face:

im curios on how does the submind encode on things that we do in daily basis you know?

#4

The neural pathways we use frequently (actions we perform, thoughts we think, etc) get strengthened, whereas the ones we don’t use, get pruned away and recycled to produce new ones. This is how habits get formed, as well as lost.

So, avoid junk programming and mindless drivel, focus on things that help you grow and learn and feel the way you want, and your brain will shift over time to align itself with the chosen thought pathways and habits.

The brain has a function called the Default Mode Network, and it tends toward negativity. This is an ancestral function as way back in the early days of humanity there was no survival benefit to enjoying a sunset or sniffing a flower, but there was a huge benefit to jumping away from something that looks like a snake or running away from a rustling bush that might be hiding a tiger or something. Much of this is centered around the amygdala, which (grossly oversimplified) controls our fear and negativity.

Mindfulness & gratitude meditation and other gratitude thoughts help silence the amygdala and thus the default mode network, which helps reduce negative rumination and thoughts. Combined with avoiding needless negative inputs and consciously focusing on things that are of value to you is a good way to eliminate harmful thoughts and beliefs. Increase thoughts about mindfulness (the present moment), experience and cultivate feelings of gratitude, and perhaps most importantly… have a positive purpose - something you’re working toward that inspires you to grow, to improve and… in my own definition… makes the world a better place in some way.

This is still very much a work in progress for me, my DMN is still very active and there are days I wish I could stab my amygdala with a fork to make it shut up… but the above steps are what I’m working on.

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#5

thanks for sharing buddy :heart:

#6

I might be the minority here but past a certain age I don’t believe the subconscious is this impressionable. And I dislike the idea that the subconscious is just a sponge that soaks up anything you throw at it. It’s definitely not the case, otherwise we wouldn’t have to spend so much time impressing ideas upon it. I mean think about it, subclub is peak subliminal tech and I still takes a while to change. There’s no way tv advertisements are penetrating that deep.

But, what influences can do is sort of echo preexisting limiting beliefs or insecurities. Car commercials try to do that all the time. Trying to appeal to people to make them seem bold or standout, meanwhile it’s just a piece of metal on wheels.

Overall I’d say don’t worry about it. Your subconscious is far more intelligent and discerning than it’s usually given credit for. Just heal and strengthen yourself and you basically become immune to the bs floating around out there. 90% of those influences just capitalize on some form of preexisting trauma or conditioning, not real subliminal programming.

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#7

@BLACKICE Thank you again for posting this!

@Budewr Please read all the above posts again. I want to emphasize an important concept and that is stop feeding anything you dislike. I’ve stopped listening to a lot of pop music because of the negative messages or promotion of irrelevant things. Irrelevant as they have nothing to do with what I want in life.

@Fractal_Explorer Thank you. This is a good point that the unconscious is likely much more impressionable at a certain time in life. So that is why it is important to take action in the direction of where you want to go to impress on it what you want.

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#8

That’s one of the reasons I’d really like some subliminals that are designed for children. I listened to garbage music as a teenager (but also some good music, like Garbage lol) and I can only imagine what my life would be like if I’d been listening to subliminals back then, as well as more things like Tony Robbins, Jim Rohn, etc.

The next best thing is teaching my daughter important things. While she definitely has some childish stories that we read to her, she also has science books and inspirational stories - board book stories about Marie Curie, Amelia Earhart, Maria Montessori, and other female role models for her. Obviously it will be many years before she’ll be able to understand journaling and intentions, but as soon as she’s ready, we’ll be teaching her that.
We don’t have cable tv, so she’s not being exposed to junk like that… and the only screen time she gets is when we facetime with family, as they all live quite far away.

Impulse purchases etc can be influenced for a long time, but certain key values are definitely established earlier on and become relatively (but not absolutely) fixed. Certain beliefs around love, safety, relationships, money… are established in childhood. They can definitely be changed, as there are many stories of people growing up in poverty or in a less-than-ideal home environment who later become wealthy, happy, successful, etc despite the early lessons they learned.

One of the reasons we chose the Montessori method for our daughter is because it focuses so much on instilling a sense of confidence and a “yes I can!” mindset from such an early age. Many people use cribs for their babies, my daughter only slept in a crib until about 7 months. Now she has a Montessori floor bed that she can get in and out of as she pleases. The only barricades we put up are a gate at the top of the stairs, and closing the door to my office as I’ve got a server rack in here as well as my workstation on the floor beside my standing desk… lots of wires to get into.

We do say “no” to her if she’d doing something she should not be, but only when she does it after we’ve already explained to her why she shouldn’t do it. Things like grabbing my glasses off my face, or pulling on the cable of a charging phone. (all of our plugs are at baby height, not much we can do about that) but for the most part we present her with things we can say yes to. She can pick her snack, between 2 good choices. She can go to her shelf and pick any toy or book she wants to, as they’re all acceptable.

It’s not an experiment as this method has been around for over a century, but it’s definitely different from how I was raised. And very very different from how my wife was raised in China.

But yeah, child-friendly subliminals for establishing mindsets for happiness, confidence, focus… sign me up!

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#9

thats an interesting idea,

i like the idea but however reptition plays a huge role, if you listen to bad music with curse lyrics and drugs over and over again

even though concouisly you know that this doesnt represent you deeply by days it will be cause youre soaking it up

i agree not everything can soak up easily, but what if big compnies know an even better tech than subclub? remmber theyre billioners they probably know about how humans work more than anyone

they know how to make you addictive to your cellphone and such

[Moderator Edit: Language. @Budewr this might be your last warning. Women are to be referred to as women. Girls is fine too. No excuses.]

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#10

me too! i stopped listening to rap, same idea!

its all about stupid messages that is not me, not my pure self

i moved to techno :smiley: and electronic music

#11

god bless you :smiley:

wow thats a lucky babe having nice parents like you guys

:joy::joy:

i love the method the way youre describing it, defenlity tv sucks but tv time is no wrong :smiley: you could watch something together like sea life or nature something really nice on netflix, or documtries

maybe some good cartoon as well! not any cartoon on the cable

you can pick and choose :smiley: or you can have certian hours of the week for her to watch cartoons as a reward for behaving and acting so well

#12

Guess you already know the answer, bro. Basically create an environment for yourself that inputs good programming to you.

Whether it is subliminals, books, tv, movies, music, education, friends, family, neighbors, country, etc choose the best of the best.

Some things can be changed immediately (like media from books, videos, etc) but others take time (like friends, country, etc). But it’s a work in progress.

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#13

My personal experience is that I can listen to that type of stuff all I want and have. I’m not sure how it is for everyone else. But it’s definitely possible to listen to this stuff all the time and not have it influence you. Some hip hop is really crude, but there’s skill in aspects of it that I admire. I personally don’t like taking the approach of avoiding perceived negative stuff, it seems a limiting way to go about life. But whatever works for the individual best is important.

Nah. I’d be willing to bet they don’t. 2 reasons. 1 subclub seems to work with pretty metaphysical aspects for growth, right away most people dismiss that. 2, they’re just building upon age old strategies of manipulation. There’s no direct influence on the subconscious itself. For example Tinder. They are leveraging the same tactics casinos use with slot machines. Withholding matches, giving you one, pulling back,keeping you swiping, etc. Another is Instagram, they use an infinite scrolling feed and nonstop content. Since there’s no end you have to make the decision to stop but it puts you in a clever dopamine loop where you don’t want to. But you’re vulnerable to both of those only if they’re being utilized to fill some hole in your life. They are instant gratification vs delayed gratification of long term goals.

These are more classical conditioning vs direct programming. And I’m sure a lot of the research is targeted at people who are easily susceptible. They cast their net and the outliers are let go.

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#14

That trains her to work for a simple and shallow reward instead of for her own growth, which is the opposite of what we want. I grew up glued to a tv with the tv going on when we woke up and the last person to bed shuts it off, and with going to McDonalds or to get ice cream “for a treat” (and my parents are still like that…) Not good for anyone, but especially bad for an impressionable young child.

As for tv, my wife and I do watch documentaries - we’ve seen every Attenborough one on Netflix and just about all of the other nature ones too. We also subscribe to CuriosityStream, which is nothing but documentaries. But plopping the kiddo down in front of a screen, no matter how educational it might be for us, is a no-go. When we do watch anything, it’s after she’s asleep.

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#15

try gaia you might also like this subscription based platform really educational

diffrent methods of parenting

obvouisly you know the best for your littile angel

i wish you guys nothing but love and joy into this journey we call life :heart:

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#16

We’re raising her primarily with the Montessori method, as it’s proven highly effective for over 100 years. Adding in a tiny bit of Waldorf for some creative play. But it will be years before any tv stuff is introduced as part of that.

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#17

How do you know this?

#18

I’ve listened to plenty of gangster rap over the years. I can’t see a single shred of evidence in my life that would be an influence from it. I don’t get into fights, I don’t treat women poorly, don’t do drugs in excess, I don’t hold that music as a source of my identity I just like it. If it had influenced me I’m sure I’d be a lot more aggressive than I am now. I fail to see any sort of manifestation in my life from listening to it.

#19

Ok, lets invert the question.

Has gangster rap had a positive influence in your life?

#20

It serves as an influence in my own music in some way, so it inspires creativity. I’d say that’s positive. I’m not saying I’m aspiring to be a rapper or anything. But it has its space in my life and I wouldn’t cut it out.