Is Ascension Enough for a major program?

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#1

Hi : D

(please share your experince i will be very grateful for your input :pray: )

ive been using emperor for 3 months, and ive been having a bit of hard time seeing progress i was expecting something fast

after @Yazooneh and @sid have recommended i do ascension cause the Route of Emperor is not going so well with me

i have a question, if youve ran ascension and emperor, do you think that ascension alone is enough for internal confidence, self discpline, more drive towards goals, and all that stuff that Emperor works on?

ill have to put Emperor on hold till QZP comes out, Emperor is not going well for me maybe its too dense or something

but whats making me so hesitant about Ascension is that feels idk like not a major program

is there anyone here that ran ascension alone instead of Emperor ? im planning on buying it today

thanks

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#2

@Budewr
What do you wish to achieve with Emperor or Ascension ?

Let’s forget what the programme can do for a bit.

#3

my main purpose and goal for emperor or ascension was to build a more solid version of me,

a version of me who would never mind discomfort, who would never mind working for 8-10 hours a day on his goals and never be on that endless loop of chasing cheap desires such as porn, or watching tv shows or movies for a quick fix rather than working on my priorities which is the most important

movies and games and shows, have their time of the week life is about fun too, but my main goal is to be Great. and greatness requires Discipline

to be more disciplined, and not give a shit about my desires like wanting to smoke cigs from time to time

or to drink soft drinks, or anything that gives a quick fix, which is not HEALTHY at all.

to never do things that dont serve me in this life, such as wasting time on social media, smoking or whatever that doesnt add any value in my life,

to have more confidence and social calmness and not have this fear of talking in front of people or when im expressing myself

to have this strong determination and ambition to never put anything over my priorities in life , and just to do the work even if it gets hard sometimes

to be the master of my own reality and that everything works with me and not against me and clashes with me, when i try to build a habit for example i get a push from my submind, when i try to escape my work my submind tells me yo yo yo you cant do that,

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#4

Also @Michel if you could please share you experience and some insights , i know read that you ran ascension for over a year, which got me a bit pumped :sunglasses:

#5

This is my suggestions.

  1. Focus on few goals for now.
  2. Start with Ascension and build small disciplines such as waking up at a certain time or adding an exercise routine. Don’t get discouraged because these are small and basic disciplines.
  3. Don’t measure your progress with others on the forum.

I found that these title work this way for me:
If you are always relying on people for your happiness then these titles will ensure that you go through some real life experiences that show you that it’s best to rely on yourself. It may be hard and painful but at the end you will consciously come to the conclusion that it’s best to rely on yourself.

if you have a issue approaching women then the titles will show you the IOI from women and if you don’t take action on that then you will keep on thinking what a waste you are for not approaching

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#6

Yes i agree checking people’s experiences are not the best sometimes, especially on emperor. Everyone is talking about their good journey but ive not seen anything like what that theyre talking about

Definitely with the small disciplines i wake up early i eat good i do my best with disciplining myself, but sometimes it gets a bit hard and i want to smoke some cigarettes

Even though i quit smoking a long time ago, but sometimes i crave some nicotine with coffee,

I have a routine that i rely on that serves me, like i go to the gym early wake up early eat my meals and etc etc work more work, then reading

I have a lot of things planned out, but sometimes i need that push you know? That self drive that keeps you going consistently,

But im solely running ascension for self growth and inner greatness, women sure maybe i find cute lads ill approach :sunglasses: but idc tbh, my main goal is my mission and my purpose and focusing on it.

When i focus i will find the girl that will share some interests with me and with life and then ill approach

Yes, life is the wisest teacher, its the true master.

It might feel rough, but its a lesson

#7

From the way you writing it seem you executing Emperor very well.

#8

yeah but some time i dont execute it well id say this is me and what i have been a long time ago before, i get a good routine but 40% execution only like im supposed to work on music for 5-6 hours, i work for 2 hours and 30 mins which is very low, i wanna play with the big boys doing 6 hours a day effortlessly

, i have a good routine but sometime im very very inconsistent. one day i work very well, the next day i barley do any work etc etc so i fuck up a lot, i grew up with comfort being my best friend so its a bit hard for me

now i wanna ditch that friend forever, i want to make friends with growth

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#9

All what you mentioned is in your control.

#10

yes i feel that way, but doing the work is actually not like working and actally doing it

thats what im looking for from subs. that PUSH TO GREATNESS , im doing work but its too slow and low,

i want how the big bois work :sunglasses:

#11

It takes time and constant effort.
Doesn’t happen over night.

Good luck

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#12

thanks,
you too budd

#13

Would you be interested in running limit destroyer? You seem to have alot of notions regarding how the subs are to function, related to some performance metrics. It was advised to run Limit Destroyer when you already know what is holding you back. This is evident considering you have some ideas regarding emperor not working properly. I see it as a bad thing to jump from a sub because it is bad, this would stop you from considering it in the future.

Also I find the content you are writing about as something you would manifest while running ascension, like getting out of the comfort zone. This is what ascension will probably solve, is the lack of internal power to actually be above others, to stop imagining oneself as seperate or above. However, I will comment on a personal note that for me personally, I find K ST3 to be stronger than ascension for that goal.

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#14

hey man! ive been running limit destroyer for almost 5 months now, non stop with washouts of course but it seems the results are almost invisible, i dont notice them, lot of fear disappeared from my life thats for sure, but i think theres more blockages to destroy i think theres more trauma in my subconscious that hasnt been dealt with

also the way i see limit destroyer is to put open goals

like my main goals for limit destroyer are
1-erase any traumatic experiences thats effecting my habits and my way of thinking out of my submind
2- erase any health limitation that blocking my body from absorbing nutrients and helping my immune and digestive system
3- some other goal that i wanna keep it for myself : 3

i dont want to ditch emperor, but im not enjoying my journey of super super slow low progress ive had 8%-10% improvement in my life since i ran emperor, that is very very slow

thank you! yes this is mainly what i want from emperor or ascension is the inner greatness,

i think im gonna work my way with ascension until i improve a lot in my life like 40% 50% improvement and movement then i will go to emperor once QZP comes out or wait for it,

#15

Might be worth trying Regeneration ZP when it comes out.

Trauma will stunt your progress on ALL alpha subs, doesn’t matter which ones you listen to. Several months on Ascension will get you some progress but you’ve gotta clear the roadblocks first.

I went back and forth on Khan, Emperor, Stark, AM, and every time the issue of unresolved childhood trauma kept coming up, no further progress could be made with

These subliminals are like lie detectors, it will go deep and instruct you to deal with the past if its blocking your progress.

You didn’t like the more leadership or aggressive elements of Emperor, ask yourself why that is and if it links back to some past negative experience with masculinity or power.

Try out Ascension for a month, but with some healing title like Elixir ultima just for the quick wins.

BTW There’s nothing wrong with going with Ascension for a while, I’ve been at it for more than a year, both original and Qv1/Qv2, ZP when it gets made.

I’ve read some really insulting things about users of Ascension recently, guess it makes them feel better putting others down to feel important.

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#16

I agree my friend im with in the same page of that you once said theres a huge patch of trauma that blocks lots of our progress in life which is the main clog of lots of things

Ive done lots and lots of healing through breathing and other techniques that solved lots of my issues that had blocked my true self

But i totally agree, i even recommend healing subs as starters before doing any foundation or anything to do with building yourself and goals

But since ive done lots of those, and theres still some to remove

I choose limit destroyer for clearing the dust that still has some prints in my subconscious, and also wanted something to build my life with like a title like emperor or stark

Emperor wasnt great for me, maybe im having a tough time with it for whatever reason. So i thought id give. Ascension a try maybe? But im a bit underestimating the power of it for some reason

Cause its not as big as emperor or stark, but maybe that less is better rather than more,

And some here really have some insecurities and traumas that manifests as putting people in their place and punching down on people

Thats pure insecurity acting like a BRO

How would you compare ascension to emperor in your words and experience if you dont mind : D

Cause you have like a year under your belt of ascension which is impressive

And i see a couple of people here running ascension on their customs instead of emperor which looks to me that it might something really strong but i am just underestimating it cause its less dense than other scripts like emperor etc

#17

Most people find that AM, both gives a boost to status, confidence and ALSO enables hard work and not wasting time.

OTOH, three months is hardly a long time, is it.

Quite frankly, there is only so much information you can get from other people, nobody here knows you in real life and those who do actually know you in real life will not be able to make this decision for you either.

You won’t get anyone else to make the right decision for you, you need to do this yourself. Unfortunately you lack self knowledge but even choosing the “wrong” thing won’t actually be “wrong” as it will still allow some albeit slow progress whereas endlessly whining about it and not making a decision gets you nowhere.

So let me clarify your position.

  1. Run Emp for another nine months.

  2. Switch to AM/A (I prefer AM) and run it for a year.

  3. Do something else (and stick to running it for a year).

Shit or get off the pot.

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#18

6 hours is a big ask. Are you talking 6 hours of straight writing a song? Or mixing and sound design and all that?

What’s your workflow usually like?

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#19

Personally if i was in your situation i would simply add Ascension to my stack, you’re already getting the full ascension script in emperor so adding it to your stack shouldn’t be too much of a problem, it’ll just give you a little more exposure on something you consider a weakness.

2x Emp, 1x Ascension every other day.
1x Limit Destroyer every day but not at the same time as your stack.

#20

6 hours is nothing lol i think you need to put in at least 8 hours a day if you’re seriously looking for incredible improvements , im talking about straight working on an idea of a track like sound design and get off the idea of the track in the sessions view of ableton

Add new elements to the track and then proceed to the arrangement view then work your way to a final product with arranging and mixing

Im relatively new, maybe its been 8 months or less since ive really started working and understanding music production and how it works and understanding the basics or rhythm and groove, i make techno so maybe its a different workflow then yours

At the end i wanna be able to finish 3 tracks a month, cause only way to improve your tracks is to make more tracks and improve your ear and your niche as i read from other music producers

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