I hope Subliminal Club never turns into

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#1

I hope Subliminal Club never turns into an esoteric items producer.
So far it seems everything is based on a scientific viewpoint, despite the “supernatural” titles.
The tendency of some subliminals creators is, after some time, to follow the hype of creating energy charged, morphic fields frequency audio files.
I hope you allways maintain this sensible way of doing things based on scripting technology in spite of the urges of some users that seem to crave “magical” pills.
I am under the impression that you are part of the few people that know how to craft effective subliminals.
I’m not trying to be a polemist or something similar, just expressing my genuine wishes.

Sorry for my english

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#2

Mate, edit out the name of other producers :wink:

SubliminalClub will always experiment and do things that will work for their customers.

Of course there will be some titles that more geared toward spirituality, there are a lot of people who want to expand their consciousness and there are also people who want to increase their revenue.

I don’t believe magical pills exist (well, with QZP that’s a whole new debate), but Subliminalclub’s policy has always been centered around being active in the world and taking action.

P.S. Also final note, I still don’t really get the point of the post, it’s a little big to create a new topic to express an opinion like that… In the end, Fire and SaintSovereign will do their best to follow where their passion and dreams for this company leads them. Wish you the best mate :slight_smile:

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#3

WTF, your English is perfect (at least for a non native speaker such as myself)

Regarding your post, I agree for the most part but would prefer they keep some sort of balance whereby SC is still open to experiment and look into things with potential regardless of how “magical” they initially seem. We don’t know what we don’t know.

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#4

With great regret I must inform you that this already happened with QZP :slight_smile:

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Joking. QZP makes things a lot easier, but people still have to take action.

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#5

I wasn’t referring to the content or purpose of a file, be it “spiritual enlightenment” or “teletransportation”.
I’m talking about the creation process.
Energy based audios and morphic fields are not scientific.
Subliminal embedding and scripting do have a scientific support.

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#6

As far as i know, ZP files are still based on subliminal technology.

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#7

iAwake’s many research whitepapers would disagree. However, I believe for the time being Saint requires more concrete evidence before it would even be considered. As well as a way to do it when not creating every sub by hand. So no energy-attuned audios, even if they are all already made with love. :slightly_smiling_face:

Also, even our spiritual titles are designed to be neutral. So they support whatever the listener practices, be this religion, energy work or a rational atheist who just wants to practice more mindfulness.

Keep in mind that it doesn’t matter what we personally may or may not believe in, our subs are developed based on research, most of it done by SubClub itself. Unless there’s somebody out there capable of teaching these guys something about subliminals they don’t know yet…

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#8

Scientific progress follows a dialectical course between mercilessly parsimonious explanation and wild, far-flung experimentation and exploration.

Both of these elements are necessary in order to innovate, to accommodate reality, and to learn.

What matters to me is that the subliminals work.

Would I reject a program that works simply because I cannot yet explain how it works?

No.

The discovery of a phenomenon that confounds currently existing explanatory frameworks does not weaken scientific inquiry, it invigorates science.

But the bottom line is that it has to be a legitimate phenomenon. It has, in other words, to work.

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#9

Relax, mate :slight_smile: SC Founders quite grounded in reality, which doesn’t exclude them from discovering new realities and see what possible for human beings to advance their potential.

#10

One day, scientists will be able to generate what we commonly perceive as magic pills.

Magic is just what science cannot explain yet.

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#11

Personally the occult, esoteric knowledge, alchemy and spiritually has extremely changed my life. I appreciate their products that are in that arena because it’s more in alignment with I who am the spiritual type subs are more in alignment with my goals and have helped removed some blockages that were holding ne back from some of my spiritual and manifestation goals and really help me to connect with my hire self.Im a reiki Practitioner so the aura modules and energy modules really resonate with me so they do work and it’s not a gimmick. I would say if those types of subs are not what your interested in stick with what suites you they have modules and programs for all walks of life their products are well rounded and they have something to offer for everyone. I will always respect them for that. I’m not interested in male enhancement or having sex with multiple people but I would never say I wish they would stop making those products thats not my place to judge or make recommendations on what they shouldn’t offer. The proof is in the pudding and they do their research everything they make is high quality they don’t need to follow trends

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#12

Quantum physics, Quantum fields, metaphysics,alchemy Auras, frequency and vibration are just as powerful in my opinion not sure if that’s in the makeup of their programs/scripting or software but it could be possible they have something to do with Spiritual based products and they work for me SC is innovative so I’m sure they experiment with different sources to give us all what we need.

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#13

Unrelated to the thread but I’d like to ask what has been your experience with spiritual subs in terms of improving your Reiki practice - since I’m interested in learning Reiki down the line?

#14

I don’t think the OP was saying that he doesn’t believe in esoteric energies — I think he was referring specifically to the alleged method of these energy based audios.

The creators claim to go into a state of trance, then mentally mold, shape and “infuse” / embed the energy into the audio file. Is it possible? Yes. Probable? No.

This same vendor was also selling print on demand jewelry worth $10 for $500, claiming the image that he created for the cheap jewelry was infused with a “morphic field.”

They were also selling computer generated sigils for $200+.

So, while I’m interested and open to the idea of all things esoteric, I can also spot a scam when I see one.

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#15

No worries, so ironically I feel like seductress has helped as far as the business side of things reiki can be kind of hard to explain to others that no nothing about it so I noticed I had the confidence I needed to get the point across of how reiki actually works. The custom I built was kind of all over the place I had wealth modules, some fitness modules but I also included a lot of aura modules I noticed the aura modules more than anything I felt more energetically aligned and I also noticed a difference when I activate the reikibsymbols which are usually drawn on your palm before you start a session I literally feel the energy and vibrations flowing from my palms intensely which i did not feel when i was first certified. I also am more self aware and am way more sensitive to others energy. I also feel like my aura gives off a energy of love and comfort so others are more drawn to me and really trust me to help them. I also ordered the alchemist program that was actually going to be the program used to enhance my reiki abilities but I started focusing on my art alot more so I’ve been using Ultimate artist and seductress mainly to get my confidence up so I can get out and network more. I also think for me personally the alchemist really digs deep so I will have to figure out the right timing to start that program when I do that will be the only sub/program I’m using well the 4 stages.

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#16

Exactly.

What is being criticized is the method.

Morphic fields is not an established “theory” by the scientific community.

It’s an interesting hypothesis for explaining strange phenomena such as the seemingly “at distance communication” between individuals of certain animal species, amongst other phenomena.

In case it be real it doesn’t follow that you can use your mind to charge an audio file with healing properties. (Imprinting your “spiritual dna” in such a file and affecting another person dna with mental intention through a mp3 or wav file).

I don’t know if it can be done. If can be done i wouldn’t call it technology.

If a commercial subs creator were to produce this type of material it would open a huge array of ethical questions.
In my opinion, such company would lose credibility.

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#17

Ceci n’est pas une pipe, it’s a great painting. And it is in fact, not a pipe, it’s a painting of a pipe. It’s a representation of a pipe, but it is not in fact a pipe. That other guy, he can make audio mandalas, he can make jewelry, he can make edible arrangements infused with the energy of a yak for all I care. As long as what he does works. And it does. I have pictures.

Now all of what he does doesn’t work for everyone. But that’s not different from subclub. Some people respond strongly, some don’t. I think it’s fair to call what he does magic. I think that’s the word for it. I don’t know why but misdirection is a part of that tradition.

The ritual is probably just a prop to make the intent real to his mind. The power might be just the intent.

#18

So wait!!!
That $300 curse pendant I purchased isn’t real?

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#19

He even sells some audio files for 300+
I really don’t trust that dude, I’ve seen multiple people say they started having nightmares and seeing demonic entities in them right after using his content.

#20

#totallyunrelatedstorytime

Many years ago, I was at the university waiting for a bus to go home… I had a nasty migraine that day and wanted nothing more than to get home and go to sleep. However, for no apparent reason at all, a guy walked up to the bus stop and loudly said to my (at the time) gf “I’m glad you’re not wearing too much makeup. Girls who wear makeup are WHORES. I hate makeup, it’s so fake. It disgusts me.” He kept on, but you get the idea.

Not gonna lie, I’m not a fan of girls wearing too much makeup either… but I don’t make a point to say so because for those that don’t, it’s unnecessary and for those that do, it’s needlessly offensive… We walked home in the blazing sun for 45 minutes, me still with a pounding headache, rather than endure even a relatively short bus ride with such a crazy ranting weirdo.

(Yes, this actually happened.)

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