I hope Subliminal Club never turns into

Lmao, that’s so foul.

People pay subscription fees for digital products all the time; personally, I pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ and Kindle Unlimited. I deem them to be worth the cost for me, though I know people who think they’re a waste of money for a variety of reasons. If instead of a digital media streaming service, someone decides to pay $$$ for a computer file allegedly imbued with magic abilities, then 1 of 2 possibilities are true:

  1. It works, and the people who use them are quite happy that the rest of the world thinks it’s nonsense. I guarantee there are considerable numbers of people who believe subliminals to be bunk… which means more sub results for us. Same deal, different subject.

  2. A fool and their money are soon parted… and without the slightest detriment to anyone else, so why make a fuss? In a free market, people have the right to spend their money how they see fit - including buying items that others believe to be worthless, buying supplements others believe to have no health benefit whatsoever, buying books they believe to contain truth but which others believe are nothing but ludicrous nonsense, etc. People do things all the time that others believe to be foolish, as long as it’s not harming anyone else… why care enough to think about it?

I know which one I believe to be true, but it’s none of my business what other people willingly spend money on so I’ll leave it at that.

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People care because that troll level of scamming others is an interesting topic. I have no problem believing the energies, fields, or whatever they work with exists. But people that charge ridiculous amounts for it show their colors by doing so. It’s kind of like the online “entrepreneurs” who claim they know how to make money online yet their only way of making money is selling $1k+ courses on how to make money online. Or the manifesting teachers who claim they can manifest anything, you’d think they’d just manifest a few millionaire dollars, instead their income is from selling over priced courses. Plus I’ve never seen anyone have any impressive changes from these sigils or audio files that would be anything more than what placebo can do.

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Ah yes, the gawker effect… To your point, I don’t disagree. My point was merely that if I’m not the one spending money on these things, it’s of no concern to me and people are welcome to buy into whatever they like and if they get burned then… that’s part of life. Hopefully, it will teach them to think more critically and make better choices in the future.

If I know someone is about to be scammed (and assuming I care about them enough to do anything) then I may advise them to re-think the situation. But that’s different than me talking about such things just for the sake of talking about them.

That’s all. :slight_smile:

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What’s your motivation to make long comments about people who cares what (in your mind) they shouldn’t care?

Why would you care?

It’s a paradoxical Laissez faire kind of attitude.

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Not trying to be Captain Contrarian but I’ve been using subs for 30 years and Morphic’s for 8. I get value from both. And I don’t know which creators were referred to in the original post but I suspect one of them is one that I would swear by and have had more than a casual relationship with for many years. Different tools that do different things. Just as when I consider workout plans, there are many ways to get the desired results. I can show through blood test results that a specific Morphic field I’ve been using took my testosterone levels from the cellar to the top range, increasing several fold, but people will accuse me of doing something else to get the results. So basically it doesn’t matter what I say, I will be doubted by those prone to cast doubt but all I can say is they work for me for what I use them for and I only use the one developer who, as I’ve said, I’ve known for 8 years. Is it placebo? Perhaps. But again, I get results and is perhaps proof of how truly powerful we really are to affect change once we get out of our own fucking ways. The last year has been mostly positive but I’ve used multiple tools, both tangible and ethereal, to get here. Am I perfect? Nope. But I still have the thirst to keep trying. And no I won’t say which creator nor will I be answering PMs on the topic. I just find it unnecessary at times when we bash other producers. What was the value of this thread, really?

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A lesson I will teach my daughter is:

Except when directly intervening to address an injustice, if you have nothing nice to say it’s better to say nothing at all.

As for my motivation? I admit… a combination of a few moments of free time, a bit of a pissy mood yesterday, and a little bit of desire to push back at the increasing negativity on this forum, especially by newcomers. This is a good forum, full of honestly helpful and friendly people (for the vast majority) but this thread is pointless at best and inflammatory at worst. It’s a dig (deserved or not, isn’t relevant) at someone else, who isn’t here to defend themselves, and was brought up solely for that purpose.

It’s admittedly more topically relevant than a random thread hating on say… North Korea… but that’s not the point. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter whether I personally agree with you or not, I’m simply saying this is not the forum for such negativity.

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Admittedly, I was a bit annoyed myself. The company he speaks of had no issue sending a bunch of spies over to create discord among us. But, we hold ourselves to a higher standard and threads like this should be avoided.

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