How many cycles of ascension before emperor?

I’m restarting my subliminal journey because I realized I was stupid jumping to khan immediately, also after a few days with ascension I realized that I’m more drawn to emperor.

So I’m thinking of 6 months to a year of ascension to build a good base before emperor, I’m stacking ascension with primal for added dominance, sexuality, charisma and social skills.

What do you think? Too much time with ascension? Completely unnecessary? Tell me your opinions.

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You can start with Emperor but if you want to do Ascension before it, 2 or 3 cycles of it will do.

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Will it be beneficial to do ascension before emperor? Or a waste of time?

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It’s not a waste of time. It is better of course since you can gain a foundation of alpha behavior.

But some start with Emperor and do just fine.

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Ok thanks for the advice I will think about it.

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Jump in and figure out if it’s right for you.

You can always go back to Ascension

Zp titels will guide you to the best product

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Is it always beneficial to run Ascension. It helps you build solid foundations for anything else.
Do 2 cycles, then evaluates yourself. If you think you need more then do 6 months.

Here is an idea though. We have a few months until the end of the year. Do Ascension for the rest of the year then switch to Emperor in January 2023.

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Thanks @Leandros and @ksub for the advice

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I had a similar thing with KHAN

First time I tried it was a custom with Kahn st4
It hit me so hard that I had to do nearly 2 years of healing

Then I tried Khan again 4-6months ago.

Same result

Had to go back to healing

Then Emperor

And then down to Godlike Masculinity

Now I am at the perfect sub for me

GODLIKE MASCULINITY

in a couple of months I will level up to Emperor and then a couple of months later take my 3rd run with Khan

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Good luck bro, I also had some weird stuff with khan stage 4, like it made me socially awkward and a try hard, I was ignoring ppl just to seem like I don’t give a fuck.

But now with ascension and primal I’m very social.

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More context would help.

What are you generally working with in life?

Where are you starting from right now?

What things do you feel like you’d most like to happen? How far off are they?

This allows a more grounded response.

Otherwise, the numbers may be somewhat arbitrary.

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I was a beta male but now I consider myself more alpha, I’m confident, assertive and more charismatic, but I’m still a virgin and don’t know how to get laid.

I’m now leaving my country and flying to another country to work at a high paying (higher than now) sales job.

I want to be an alpha king with millions of dollars and a harem.

I hope I gave enough details, thank you very much.
@Malkuth

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Follow up:

How did you get the job? Did you apply and interview by yourself? Did you receive important help?

Do you have people in the new country already? Is it a brand new place or a place where you’ve spent time before?

(Just answer as much or little as is appropriate)

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I got the job thru a site in the internet, I applied by myself, recorded a video of myself for the site (something I would never do pre ascension) got declined by an employer at Canada but got accepted by an employer at Vietnam.

I don’t know anyone there and never been there, I’m going to fly alone for the first time in my life.

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Getting laid is one the easiest things you can do in life once you let go of the idea that you have to sleep with the hottest girl you see. Just start talking to women and be your confident and funny self. Some of them would be available to go out for a drink. Some of them will be okay for going to your house. A few of them will end up in your bed. It is usually a number game. Just find a process that works for you and don’t stress over the results. I usually had the most success with women when I decided to be myself instead of trying to imitate someone else. Even when I was a total beta male.

The million dollar is a great goal but you’ll soon understand of much of a vain pursuit the harem is.

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Three cycle are advised of any product.

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Thanks

Yeah I’m actually a lot more comfortable with females now and I’m being myself but I don’t know how to escalate and become sexual.

I wouldn’t call it a pursuit, it wouldn’t be something I would dedicate too much effort and time to, but I do want an abundance and options but I also want loyal woman, I think this is very easy for a high value male.

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You’re inspiring me, man!

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Even with escalating, you’ll find your own style after awhile. The main thing is to stay natural and ABOVE ALL DON’T BE CREEPY OR LOOK DESPERATE .
I used to go gradually. If I put my hand on her lower back (not ass), and she doesn’t say anything, then next time I might do something more advanced. Girls mostly pretend they don’t notice but they do. If she is uncomfortable, you’ll know.
Now, with all the conversation about consent today, I would really go gradually and see how the girl reacts. Practice is everything.

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I think that on a general development level, you could already play Emperor. You’re already showing some of the basic traits and qualities of Ascension.

But.

In this immediate period of time, you’ll be having a lot on your plate. With your move and your new opportunity, there will be quite a bit of new conditions to process. Thankfully, these are largely positive and good. But the mind needs time and support to process positive changes just as it needs time with negative ones.

Recon does not only come from subliminals. Anyone who makes big, brave moves in their life is going to deal with some recon. There’ll be recon just from your move, new city, and new job alone; but you’ll handle it well and should adapt quickly.

I think that, during your initial adjustment phase, it would be a good idea to play Ascension alone for one cycle (~2 to 3 weeks) and to then start stacking it with True Sell.

This should be a smooth and easy combination to process. It should remind you of the best parts of who you are and what you know can do; without overloading you too much.

You may very quickly see what those programs can do for you. You seem perfectly suited to benefit from both of them right now.

Then, the dust settles from your move. You adjust to the job and the city and start feeling a sense of “I think I’ve got this”. You look around yourself and you’re feeling a positive sense of hunger and ambition to expand (i.e., seeing what is possible, having specific ideas of what you want and what you’d like to go for).

That is when I’d recommend swapping out Ascension and starting on Emperor. Even after you start with Emperor, I think it may be good to to keep running True Sell.

I don’t think it will take very long for you to get to that point. You may end up playing Ascension for 1 to 3 play periods. But if you love how easy Ascension is for you to process and how well it works, you may choose to stay with it longer. That’s a good approach too.

But once you feel settled, aware of opportunities, and ambitious to expand; that’ll indicate that you are more than ready for the shift to Emperor.

Short version:

You are developmentally ready for Emperor now, but you may benefit from ramping up to it over a couple of months.

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