Curious how long you’ve washed out for and what benefits you experienced? Short vs long wash out.
Any long term effects from the subs without exposure?
Curious about bloom effects too!
I’m thinking I need to do a long term wash out right now.
Edit: what I meant is, what’s the longest you’ve washed out for?
Usually between 3 to 5 days. Good when I’m facing recon other then that not much else was different but I also process subs very quickly if it’s congruent with me so if a sub takes someone 5-7 for a washout. It usually takes 2-3 days for me.
One month.
My longest washout was about two weeks while on vacation. I did not want play subs during this time.
Long term effects? Not sure
Bloom? I think I got bloom after a EOG St3 loop before vacation.
Over a month
Bloom phase for 3 weeks afterwards integration of changes
After a month I had the feeling that all scrips where digested and I am ready for a fresh start.
After this experience I changed my listening pattern to 1 loop of a title and 3-6 days rest. Works beautifully for me, specially since this gives me time to fully experience the changes and integrate them in the same week
In my experience the washout is equally important as the active listening phase
After a long time of listening to subs (maybe a year and a half) I took a 3-4 month period where i only listened to subs once a week. Wasn’t a true “3 month washout” but it was a 3 month period where i barely listened to subs. Was helpful!
I am still struggling with FOMO when doing washouts.
As soon as my rest day (every 2nd day) is over or as soon as I experience any first bloom effects from a title, I am excited and pushed to run another loop of the same title in order to “double down” on the bloom effects and get even more of them.
There is this underlying fear that if I don’t double down on the script and re-enforce it, that I might lose the achieved blooming effects.
I don’t know, maybe it is a self-sebatoge mechanism in order to push myself into recon and therefore actually “hide from the bloom”?
Kinda like “oh dear, if I get into the bloom effects all the time, then I must take more responsibility for my life”, combined with “oh dear, if I don’t double down the scripting with another loop, I might lose my positive experiences”… 
Anyone else experienced this and if yes, how do you deal with it?
Or what do you guys think?
And then there is also a third reason why I am afraid of washouts, which is that I have the feeling that the script is “being processed less” than as when right after listening to it. There are phases during washout periods when literally nothing is happening and my FOMO kicks in saying that “I am not making any progress and being a lazy bum”.
My longest washout has been for ca. 3 weeks and I basically forced myself to do it in order to get out of a longterm recon phase.
PS:
Maybe it would be a good idea to add scripting to all titles where one’s subconscious guides you to do the perfect amount of washout before running a new loop?
I don’t do washouts at all and take a day off only when needed (when my mental energy levels are significantly lower). I think washout is a good thing when you are getting major recon or you’ve got overloaded.
Getting no results is also a form of recon and doing a washout to amend it is more than advisable.
2-4 weeks.
Yep.
As soon as I began washout, I started having more results. My energy levels have improved, and my emotional status has started to balance out more.
I was not enjoying that experience to say the least!
I felt like I couldn’t even form sentences or get my words out. When I didn’t journal for five days, that was a huge red flag for me. 
I started getting tedious home tasks done yesterday, which felt really great. I was feeling this surge of gratitude and that everything is gonna be OK.
There’s a lot I want to say about this, but I feel a lot of people can relate to what you’re saying. You seem to have a gift with putting words to emotion or feeling.
I would love to hear your point of view (if you find the time…). Thanks in advance.
I did wanna say… how clear are you on your goals, your vision, your wants and desires?
Do you have a clear picture of what you want for yourself over the next 6 months, 1 year, 5 years and even 10 years out?
I find that the more clear I am on my vision and my daily purpose and near future purpose, that the recon settles out and I feel more relaxed with the tools I am using. I give life and power to any tool I choose to use. I operate the power the power doesn’t operate me.
Subs are useful tools but not the end all be all for me. With or without them I would still get to the places I want to go, but subs have helped make it easier in a sense.
I do however give credit to subs scripting and my beautiful imagination combined. Definitely not discrediting subs or saying this would have happened anyways. Sure it probably would have, but not in such a wondrous and magical way. I also would not have been here making so many connections if I didn’t use subs.
The rapid shifts that continue happening even months after listening a title blows my mind. I have listened to something 1-3x and it still has its uses.
I tap into my subconscious more easily.
Minds Eye is a game changer for imaginal activity or state akin to sleep as Neville Goddard puts it.
My sensory vividness has upgraded.
I’ve probably veered off but I just wanted to say that everything is gonna work out the way you want it to regardless of how often you listen or not. The subs are planted in your subconscious and growing like oak trees. 
solid and steady amongst any storms.
Very Interesting
How are your results?
My journal:
My longest Washout was around 10-11 days afaik, as a response to some stronger recon I´ve had on Emperor/LBFH/EoG.
Around day 4/5 it started subsiding, a week in, I´ve experienced some decent bloom, which grew in intensity, until I´ve started a new cycle. I´d assume that washing out for 2-3 weeks wouldn´t have hurt.
It´s kind of funny how they queue. I follow the official listening pattern, and I can feel the loops of the first 2 subs starting to kick in, the day I´m about to play the third sub.
Last month I´ve been on EoG2, this one I´m back on EoG1. I´ve spent last month mainly in strong recon. Now that I´m back on St1, St2 started to bloom in the backround, around the midth of this month.
The subconscious mind is kind of amazing.
Did a 7-week washout this past summer (mid-April to end of May). (Guess that’s more Spring actually.)
For the ~8 months prior to that, I’d been running a stack composed of three Terminus2 customs.
Since the washout, I’ve been having profound experiences with Standard ZPv2 customs. And now, with those Standard-build strength programs, I’m finally starting to really get into running shorter loops. 90 seonds, 2.5 minutes, and so on. Seem to be getting even more profound responses.
I think that the washout in April and May helped to cleanse my palate and focus my mind.
That being said, I find that during the washouts there is still a lot of processing going on (whether ‘bloom’ or not). The world, your goals, your efforts, your values, your desires–and just the ongoing dynamic energy of your mind–are the original subliminal.
I’m feeling like that’ll be the case for me!
I totally forgot I made a similar entry a month ago when I was having recon. 
Definitely processing going on during washouts.
3 weeks in and still feels like the subs are doing stuff.
I’m also doing a lot with my spiritual practice though.