Hello everyone and nice to meet you :)

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#21

Hi @Parsifal,

So if you feel recon, do you decrease the duration of the loops? And do you take rest days in case of recon and only then you go back to the listening schedule?

I’m going to go progressively. It’s preferable to have consistency and steady results, than recon followed by a bloom. If I feel confident, what I can do is to increase the progression on the loops (ex: instead of 3, 5, 7, 9, I can try 3, 5, 8, 11, 15).

On the official listening schedule it says that we can listen to 1 or 2 loops per listening day.
So my question was on how to decide if I should listen to 1 or 2 loops, but with micro loops I think my question doesn’t make sense. Example:
Day 1: 30s
Day 3: 1m
Day 5: 90s
Day 7: 2m
Day 9: 2m30s
Day 11: 3m
Day 13: 5m
Day 15: 7m
Day 17: 9m
Day 19: 11m
Day 21: 13m

As you can see I won’t reach the 15m duration in 21 days, so my question doesn’t make sense.

About the auto config, I read somewhere that some programs have an autoconfig feature, which means that if you should listen to more loops, you would feel an urge to do so. I might have read this for older technology and probably it doesn’t apply to ZP, but I don’t remember where did I read it.

I think someone else already asked this, but here it goes:
Imagine you only reached the 9min mark on day 21. I think you’re not benefiting from all the program features and if you’re not, I think you should come back later after the 5 rest days and do more 21 days, but this time starting on the 9min mark. But let me know, if I should just don’t ever come back to this program after 21 days no matter what (if that’s the case I can only guess that the initial 30s contain the full script, and maybe all what comes after are just repetitions of the initial 30s script but with higher intensities).

Thanks

#22

Boom! First 30 seconds nailed!

It looks like my subconscious mind was inventing lots of excused to delay the listening, so I had to fight my own mind and do not listen to the excuses.

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#23

Yes.

It depends. If you still feel recon, I would say, pause a day. I wouldn’t add more input if you’re still in recon.

They are working on new listening instructions. Before ZP listening times were several hours, with ZP they reduced it tremendously to 15 minute loops.
But with experience users realized more is less. So perhaps you can stand 2 full loops of a new sub, but probably not.
Even with just one sub, I’d recommend to start slow and increase until you notice recon and the reduce again a bit. Voila, you’ve found your so called sweetspot.

And yes titles have scripting so you can feel when you have enough. But at least with me, that needed some time and experience.
Even with titles I mostly listen full loops, I sometimes know it’s enough and I stop after 5 minutes, or whatever.

Don’t worry about the full script. You want the ideal dose of the script.

And none ever said you could listen to a sub only for one cycle. Most subs show they’re potential often only after a few months.
We have senior users, that listen to subs for years and still profit immensely. With ZP, you are the zero point. There are no mere Affirmations. It’s working deep with your subconsciousness.
So even after listening to Emperor for years, it will still lead to growth.

And yes, you can start were you left off until you’ve reached the full 15 minutes and then continue with 15 minutes for the rest if your life (theoretically).

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#24

I’m wondering how do I know if I should do more cycles or not.
If I didn’t reach the end of the full loop it’s obvious I should do more cycles, but in case I reach the end of the loop, I think then it will be my intuition to decide, let me know your thoughts.

#25

Did you get the results you wanted? If not, keep going.

It’s that easy.

From my main sub I can tolerate the 15 minutes without recon. Mostly.
But even when you can tolerate the full loop, sometimes 3 minutes are better because they get processed faster/better.

It’s all so highly individual.

Search for Viktors Victory Venture. Viktor is super scientific in his approach to finding the best listening schedule, tweaking listening time by sometimes only 5 seconds.

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#26

Yesterday I got sleepy after listening, but it was time to go to bed, so no problem.
Today I’m not feeling anything different. No recon.

Do I also have to take a rest day (today) or can I listen to the 1 min loop today?

#28

So basically listen twice a week instead of 3 days a week? Or only on last week of cycle

#29

I think his schedule is like 5x (1 on 1 off), 3 day break, 5x (1 on 1 off), 5 day break.

Rinse and repeat.

Simply put: take the 6th listening day as an additional rest day.

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#31

Yes, I run 3 days a week and take the 4th week off.

So a cycle for me is one month. 9 listening days, weekends off plus 7 day washout on 4th week of month.

Thanks for clarifying. I switch between 3 days a week and twice, still haven’t quite found the right sequence.

#32

Hi all,

So there have been some results like increase in muscle mass (due to water retention) without gaining belly fat, some compliments and respect from other people, and the test for the job interview is more in line with my skills.

The only problem is that I’ve not been able to sleep well. This can be due to the subs, but can also be due to the Full Moon (since Kundalini energy was activated on me, during some Full Moons I feel very sexy and can’t sleep almost all night).

Last night, I woke up at the middle of the night and I thought it was morning already (thinking that my window blinds were closed, but they weren’t) because it seemed that I had been sleeping for a very long time. Then I slept again till the morning (about 2 more hours) and when I woke up it seemed that I had slept all morning.
You know that feeling we have when we normally wake up and it seems that we only slept 5 minutes, but we slept 8 hours? Well, not last night. Last night, I had the feeling that I’ve been in bed for ages.

Anyway, most of the night I couldn’t sleep, and I feel tired. And I’ve been unable to sleep for too long, most of the nights, since I started with the Ascension. Again, this might be due to the Full Moon.

So, by precaution, I think I should take a break for a few days, but let me know what do you think.

I don’t feel depressed nor exhausted (which would happen with the recon from the previous vendor).

I just feel that I would need to rest today, but I’m busy solving the test for the job interview.

Thanks

#33

Some subs have an energizing effect. With emperor I couldn’t slepp well when I listened later than noon.

Perhaps just changing the time of day could fix that.

It could also be processing happening at night, so reducing listening time would help in that case.

And less is more with ZP. A rest day never hurts if you feel recon. The worst case is that you finish processing and go into execution mode.
But since some subs finish processing only months after you stopped listening (at least if you used them over elongated periods), that could take some time.

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#35

If you mean additional rest days during your 21 day cycle, I’d include them, at least at the beginning. Once you have more experience, you can start experimenting more, but at the beginning start getting a feeling for it.

Also, this last entry feels like a journal entry.

So I invite you to open a journal and post there.

Welcome again

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#36

Yes, I was going to start a journal :sweat_smile: And next time I will :wink:

I didn’t understand your answer to the rest days.
My question is, since I’ve taken 2 additional break days, if the total cycle days should still be 21 days, or 21 + 2 = 23 days.
At the end of the cycle I’ll take the mandatory five days off, and I’m not referring to those rest days.

#37

Sorry, I meant to see them as a part of the 21 days. Don’t care about if you have 11 listening days, or if you just listened at 9 days.

21 days, then 5 days of rest.

You don’t loose from more rest in-between. It’s just more room for processing.
Instead focus on taking more action, journal more. The subs are just the tool to inspire your subconscious, to get serious results, your subconscious needs to see that you are serious about what you say you want. You do that by taking action. And Journaling.

Get a feeling for the process, keeping the instructions very strictly. Rather less exposure than to much. And action, action, action.
Plus Journaling.

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#38

And I just noticed, I was preaching to myself :innocent:

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#39

I’m glad that Kundalini was able to help you heal and stop taking medication. Do you think it was the removal of alien chips and implants (I saw your other thread) that helped you heal?

Also, what “entities” do you ask to heal yourself?

If you don’t mind me asking… how did you get into subliminals? Like, what was your entry point?

Was it brainwave entrainment? If so, how did you stumble across that?

You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, I’m just genuinely curious.

Cheers.

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#40

Sorry, I didn’t express my self correctly. I stopped taking medication a few weeks after I started using the other vendor’s subliminals. I can’t mention which vendor it was, because as you can see at the beginning of this thread it is against the forum rules.
I was already on my path to stop taking medication before discovering subliminals, but the subliminals have helped me to achieve that goal faster by healing me (I think healing works by rewiring the brain and causing some emotional turmoil and nightmares, without requiring to take action, but let me know, because I’m not sure about this).

About alien chips and implants

To be honest I never had such experiences (or if I had I don’t remember). My therapist told me those chips are so small that they are imperceptible to us, and that aliens put them on humans to study humans, like humans put chips on animals. I don’t know whether any of this is true or not, I’m just telling you what has been told to me.

The Reiki and Kundalini came after I stopped taking medication, and they helped me healing even more.
Reiki has been about filling me with Love, and Kundalini about filling me with power.
I can also say that after a few Kundalini sessions, I would look myself in the mirror and say “Uaaaaau, this is the real me, the person I always thought I was, now I’m my self, I’m amazing!”

I had an astral projection with an entity that seems to be an alien, but I’ll talk about that and answer the rest of you post later. I’m on a rush now. Talk later :wink:

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#41

That’s awesome, thanks for taking time out of your day to clarify your experience. It’s very unique, why is why I was curious.

It’s alright, you don’t have to lol. Let’s just talk about the subliminals and more important questions.

How close do you think you are to Super Saiyan 4?

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