Genesis custom, could use some help working out the modules

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#1

@AnswerGroup @Forum_Ambassadors and anyone else is welcome to lend their thoughts

I’ve started dabbling with the idea of a Genesis custom that targets specific sticking points. I’ve realized one of my biggest sticking points is repetitive negative thoughts that I basically become hostage to until I pull myself out of the loop among other things. A lot of this is targeted towards the various challenges that come with CPTSD, I’m not looking for deeper in depth healing, I’m handling that side in therapy. This is more of an aid to support me outside of it. I feel like some of this might be in Sanguine already and I could condense it down, but wasn’t sure. There’s also my music modules in here because I do know that’s a direction I want to go and felt it would push Genesis in a more specific direction while still keeping the exploration angle.

  • Genesis Core

    • Being willing to let go of old views, open my mind to new experiences, thought restructuring
    • Sitting with emotions more
    • All the goodness Genesis has already given me

  • Ultimate Music Producer + Virtuoso di Musica

    • Goal oriented direction with Genesis

  • Foundation

    • Pull myself away from dissociative habits

  • Divine Self Image

    • Body dysmorphia(not sure if it can help here but I wanted to give it a shot)
    • Imposter syndrome

  • Inner Voice

    • Self compassion, less being hard on myself, inner criticism
    • Stronger positive thinking, uplifting

  • Manipulus + Fearsome + Righteous Ire + The Boundary

    • Putting myself first, stop people pleasing, stop taking abuse
    • Understand anger and utilizing it (Anger was never something I integrated, it was a forbidden emotion when I was a kid)
    • Asserting strong boundaries

  • Path of Forgiveness

    • Self harm(not serious physical stuff, just junk food, caffeine, negative internal dialogue, overworking myself, overall bad decisions that hurt me but provide immediate gratification or escape)
    • Being ok with not being ok, forgiveness, self compassion. Making peace with my past and doing the best I could do at that time
    • Accepting good things, not self sabotaging. Part of me rejecting good things in my life is because I feel I haven’t done enough to earn them.

  • Safety Net

    • Creating a sense of safety for myself overall

  • Untouchable

    • Valuing my creativity, not letting people shut it down
    • Feeling isolated, misunderstood, struggling, finding strength in myself

  • Virtue Series: Hope + Courage Reclaimed

    • Perfectionism, accepting where I’m at with skills and such. Being ok with making mistakes and growing . Prevent negative thought loops from minor set backs, catastrophizing
    • Stop self destructive thought loops about myself
    • Stop victim mentality

  • Mosaic

    • Stacking with Wanted Black

  • Pragya

    • Better processing (even on microloops I find the processing intense and stuck sometimes)

  • Merger of Worlds

    • One of my favorite modules. I just like the deeper connection between the subconscious

  • Naturalizer

    • I figured this would make everything easier overall or more smooth

  • Harmonic Singularity

    • Overall muscle tension release, reduce armoring which has held back emotions for me
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#2

You’re right that Sanguine may have some of this but you should really really really check out Sanguine: Elixir. Has a very different feel to sanguine, would be perfect, because it’s all of the “feel good, positive, low recon” of sanguine, but it goes a tiny bit deeper than sanguine and helps you lightly heal only the things stopping you from feeling good right now, in the moment.

Sanguine: Elixir also helps you run subs easier, as Elixir gives (light!) healing and extra assistance specifically to the parts of the other subs in your stack that you have the most resistance to.

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#3

I’ve tried Sanguine Elixir in the past and it was too much for me. Really trying to limit any type of excess healing here and more focused on cultivating positive habits. Too much healing really bottlenecks my customs, had to learn that one the hard way. And i think Genesis, from my experience kind of already does some digging. I don’t want to pile on more unintentionally.

#4

Okay gotcha, I added an edit about sanguine elixir but disregard that then.

If overload is a concern, which it sounds like it definitely, a 20 module custom sounds like a terrible idea, if we’re being blunt.

#5

Do you like Sanguine? Do you like Chosen?

Or, do you like Love Bomb? Not humanity… just OG Love Bomb?

All 3 might help you gain stability and certainty without actual “healing”

#6

I’ve never actually tried Chosen. But Sanguine is always a safe bet for me. Love Bomb is kinda hit or miss for me.

But you have a point. I didn’t consider the density of Genesis. Maybe Sanguine core in here and then pick out some modules I REALLY want that might not be in Sanguine

#7

Why not just listen to sanguine on the side as needed? It doesn’t count as one of the titles in your 3-sub stack.

#8

That’s what I’m actually currently doing, but I was curious to see what it would be like inside a custom alongside other modules.

#9

All this makes me think you should really consider Power Can Corrupt as your second core!

If you need 5-6 modules to express what is in PCC, and if you’ve been on the “dominated” side of power struggles as a child, you would benefit greatly, no?

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#10

The issue is then it’s not the best to listen to sanguine on the side, so, if you need EXTRA hits of sanguine, you can’t get them, because the only way you’ll be able to listen to sanguine is by listening to your entire Genesis/Sanguine custom…

You COULD stack extra sanguine on the side but that seems overkill. I’d keep it out of a custom. For example, maybe you find that you only like 3 minutes of your custom, but sanguine doesn’t become effective until 7 minutes. Then you’d be stuck where you can’t adjust sanguine.

Just an example but hope you see what i mean

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#11

Conversation about PCC continues for a few posts from there ^

#12

ROM + Genesis as a stack is amazing for changing thought perspectives.

Putting this here to point out that even Genesis does a good job, but ROM takes it to another level!

(this post of genesis solo, chronologically, was before ROM, it was the introduction of ROM that accelerated mental-chatter improvements.

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#13

Ah man, well I appreciate the alternatives to think about. PCC is an interesting one, I might have to sit on that. I have used RoM in the past, I’ll have to revisit my journal to get a better feel for what it offered me.

I think that yeah ultimately it’s the cycle of situations → cognitive distortions that really screws me up that I want to get a hold on.

#14

Last post I swear, but, Chosen would really help. My girlfriend describes chosen as “deep inner peace.”

So I’ve probably made things better rather than worse with all these ideas, but maybe you can explore a Chosen + Genesis + PCC custom, or throw ROM in there somewhere!

Just to make one change at a time, I’d test out Genesis + One of those, not 2 new ones at once

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#15

Haha nah I appreciate it. I have a laundry list of customs I tried to put together and ultimately had to abandon because I didn’t think them through enough.

I just never really know what’s in the cores so I gravitate towards modules more.

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#16

In that case yeah you’ve got to keep the customs really tight, one core, a few modules, to make it just an amplified experience of a title you already know you like… modules are powerful, and throwing the kitchen sink into a custom can be difficult to process.

This is a 14 module Genesis custom that would be eaaaasy to run

  • Genesis (CORE)
  • Ego Adsum (Present Moment)
  • Stress Displacement (Stressful thoughts become positive thoughts)
  • Fenrir (see link for detailed description, I think this matches a lot of the “people” modules you wanted Friday's Favorite Modules - #13 by friday )
  • Stonelike (harmonic singularity but for emotions)
  • Eye Of The Storm (Habits)
  • Inner Voice (Good positive self-talk)
  • Call Of Honor (have pride in yourself)
  • Courage Reclaimed (create a powerful mindset of control, not victim)
  • Divine Self Image (as title says)
  • Gratitude Embodiment (as title says)
  • You Are Not Alone (like Inner Circle, but specifically for manifesting close friendships)
  • Ultimate Music Producer (as title)
  • Virtuoso di Musica (as title)

btw Mosaic isn’t really needed in ZP unless the modules and titles are really completely all over the place & chaotic.

I chose these modules because none of them are directly “healing” modules, minus Courage Reclaimed and Stonelike… which tbh I would consider take out to tighten this up even further and to make sure the listening experiene is completely smooth

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#17

I was under the impression mosaic should be used when you run a standard title outside of the custom to help it integrate better.

Appreciate the proposed custom idea.

So everything I put in my initial custom idea are the things I noticed that I needed to bring more attention to in order to take more action on Genesis. They weren’t really meant to compliment or strengthen Genesis, more like filling in the gaps where I was noticing sticking points.

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#18

stonelike with harmonic singularity, stress displacement and foundation would make you absolutely immune to stress.

#19

Alright Genesis custom attempt take #2. There was too much in there, several different goals. Refined it a bit to focus exclusively on what I feel could help me out a bit more than standard Genesis

  • Genesis (CORE)
  • Ego Adsum (Present Moment)
  • Negativity Displacer(for emotional flashbacks and preventing spiraling)
  • Eye Of The Storm (Habits, overwriting old with new ones)
  • Foundation(Good combo eye of the storm)
  • Inner Voice (Good positive self-talk)
  • Untouchable(I think this one would help a lot towards validating my own struggles and what I want out of life)
  • Courage Reclaimed (Victimhood can also be synonymous with learned helplessness which I have a very big history of)
  • Divine Self Image (My self image kind of sucks)
  • Ultimate Music Producer (More of a push in the direction of Genesis)
  • Virtuoso di Musica (Similar goal)
  • Path of Forgiveness(I’m way too hard on myself and struggle a lot with past mistakes I’ve made in my life in general)
  • Mosaic (I’m stacking with WB, description says it’s good to include with any outside titles you’re stacking)
  • Merger of Worlds(leaving this one in here as well because I’ve noticed strong benefits from it in previous customs)

Man I hate building customs sometimes lol. I feel like I’ve narrowed it down a bit more though.

#20

Every single module in here sounds extremely valuable. I wouldn’t remove any of them - that’s a good sign, means you’ve thought of each of them very carefully.

What are you looking to do from here? Add modules, or remove some?

Maybe check out power talk? Since you were interested in manipulus etc

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